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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3372 Member Since : 2011-03-28 Location : I know........I know
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:13 pm | |
| The movement has tripled. I have no problem with other races getting excellent roles in Bond movies...Colin Salmon's Robinson was a highly-placed black guy in MI6 barking orders to Bond...but an emphatic no to a black actor being cast as Bond for all the reasons already cited.
Besides, black movie-goers do not flock to theaters to support their action heroes. Alex Cross is a fucking flop.
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Seve Q Branch
Posts : 610 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : the island of Lemoy
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:04 am | |
| - Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
- jet set willy wrote:
- Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Once they "go black" I'll never go back.
That really made me laugh.
And for what its worth GS, if EON ever dare cast a black Bond, I will most certainly be joining you in turning my back on the franchise. Hopefully it will never happen. Good. Our movement to keep Bond from being cast with a black man has now doubled in size. And for the record, I don't give a rat's ass if anyone thinks it is racist to not want a black Bond. I'm so far past that argument I could care less what people think or say about me. Bond is white. He is British (or from the Commonwealth). He is heterosexual. He is, well...a man. And he better damn well stay that way. And I don't have a problem with just a black actor being cast as Bond; I have a problem with all other races and ethnicities being cast as Bond. I'm an equal opportunity bigot.
I have no problem with a spin-off universe of individual 00-agent films that have gay 00-agents, black 00-agents, Eurasian 00-agents, female 00-agents. I think it would be a smart move on EON's part to widen the demographics and the offerings, and I would watch them. But let me be clear: if Bond is anything less than straight, white, male and British, I'm out of here. I've already been pushed to my limit with Bond and his wearing a dress, pimping for womyn's rights issues, for having Mommy issues with M.....anymore pushing from Bab's radical feminist agenda and I'm going to push back. BREAKING NEWS - EON have annouced they plan to cast a black man as Gravity's Silouette to attend the US opening of Skyfall |
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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3372 Member Since : 2011-03-28 Location : I know........I know
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:44 am | |
| - Seve wrote:
- BREAKING NEWS - EON have annouced they plan to cast a black man as Gravity's Silouette to attend the US opening of Skyfall
That's why I eat the peppers.... |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3693 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:07 pm | |
| If Bond is re-cast as black, I would like to see a re-do of Live and Let Die, where Bond and black Felix visit the NYC, white equivalent of Harlem to do battle with the white equivalent of Mr. Big.
Fleming's LALD or even the movie version, doesn't quite work with a black Bond, or black Felix for that matter. :afro: |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:41 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:31 pm | |
| - Control wrote:
That looks like a real Bond film. Seriously. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:47 pm | |
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Seve Q Branch
Posts : 610 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : the island of Lemoy
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:21 pm | |
| - Erica Ambler wrote:
That looks like a real Bond film. Seriously. he's got all the accessories but no way, the man's got a weak chin on an unrelated matter... This had me going for a few moments I was Googling Sir Sean for some other reason when this came up Plus it was alleged to have happened in New Zealand, where I live Necropedia Death of Sean Connery. Sean Connery, born on August 25, 1930 in Edinburgh, was a British actor of Scottish origin. He died on November 2, 2012, at the age of 82. The news has left the world shocked and saddened.
Sean Connery dead in New Zealand "Actor - Sean Connery Falls To His Death In New Zealand THIS STORY IS STILL DEVELOPING... Actor Sean Connery died while filming a movie in New Zealand early this morning - June 30, 2012 Preliminary reports from New Zealand Police officials indicate that the actor fell more than 60 feet to his death on the Kauri Cliffs while on-set. Specific details are not yet available. The accident occurred at approximately 4:30 a.m. (UTC/GMT +12). "
Goose - I looked it up and Tom Cruise, Paris Hilton, Jim Carrey, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Will Smith, Jack Black, Hugh Laurie, Robin Williams and many others have also fallen to their deaths in the same location. Never going to New Zealand! Even Angelina Jolie has "fallen to his death" on that godforsaken island! |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:36 pm | |
| Jeff Goldblum died in New Zealand, too. |
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jet set willy 'R'
Posts : 441 Member Since : 2011-04-02 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:43 pm | |
| - tiffanywint wrote:
- If Bond is re-cast as black, I would like to see a re-do of Live and Let Die, where Bond and black Felix visit the NYC, white equivalent of Harlem to do battle with the white equivalent of Mr. Big.
Fleming's LALD or even the movie version, doesn't quite work with a black Bond, or black Felix for that matter. :afro: Dr. No would be a tricky one too........Quarrel would be a white Jamaican. |
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trevanian Head of Station
Posts : 1959 Member Since : 2011-03-15 Location : Pac NW
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:02 pm | |
| - Control wrote:
Jeff Goldblum died in New Zealand, too. Was it on a beach? Because I remember the net publishing pics of him and Lisa Marie (pause to drool and slobber) nude on a beach, and it could be that he died and went to heaven right then and there. |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3994 Member Since : 2011-04-15 Location : Inside my safe space
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:12 pm | |
| - Mrs Aural Sects wrote:
- Seve wrote:
- BREAKING NEWS - EON have annouced they plan to cast a black man as Gravity's Silouette to attend the US opening of Skyfall
That's why I eat the peppers....
I'm sorry, but does Jeffrey Wright look aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnything like Fleming's description? Okay, scratch that. I'll take race off the table. Does Jeffrey Wright look anywhere close to being as cool as Jack Lord, Rick Van Nutter, or Bernie Casey? When I was over at MI6/CBn at the time, my initial complaint about Wright wasn't that he was black, but that he was too fugly to play Felix Leiter, and in six years that criticism has never really changed. THis isn't a guy who people are going to want to be like. He's not the epitome of cool. For the love of God people!!! I would have been so much happier with Harris' casting in this movie if she was playing Cedar Leiter. I could have gotten down with that. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:13 pm | |
| Actually, Naomie Harris is great in Skyfall. She is genuinely sexy. |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3994 Member Since : 2011-04-15 Location : Inside my safe space
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:17 pm | |
| - tiffanywint wrote:
- If Bond is re-cast as black, I would like to see a re-do of Live and Let Die, where Bond and black Felix visit the NYC, white equivalent of Harlem to do battle with the white equivalent of Mr. Big.
Fleming's LALD or even the movie version, doesn't quite work with a black Bond, or black Felix for that matter. :afro: Oh, so you want Mista Bond to go up against Donald Trump, eh? Well, Trump is certainly a Fleming-esque villain: he's physically deformed. His skin is orange, his face is too fat to try and shove that neck into a size 16 collar, and that rug on his head could double as some sort of pet, like a cat or a rabbit, that Trump could stroke on his lap while plotting his fiendish world domination. Alas, there are no white versions of Harlem. You'd have to find a trailer park in the rural South to find the white equivalent of Harlem, and even a white, redneck, trailer-trash park is nowhere as bad as Harlem. |
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jet set willy 'R'
Posts : 441 Member Since : 2011-04-02 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:26 pm | |
| - Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
- Mrs Aural Sects wrote:
- Seve wrote:
- BREAKING NEWS - EON have annouced they plan to cast a black man as Gravity's Silouette to attend the US opening of Skyfall
That's why I eat the peppers....
I'm sorry, but does Jeffrey Wright look aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnything like Fleming's description? Okay, scratch that. I'll take race off the table. Does Jeffrey Wright look anywhere close to being as cool as Jack Lord, Rick Van Nutter, or Bernie Casey? When I was over at MI6/CBn at the time, my initial complaint about Wright wasn't that he was black, but that he was too fugly to play Felix Leiter, and in six years that criticism has never really changed. THis isn't a guy who people are going to want to be like. He's not the epitome of cool. For the love of God people!!!
I would have been so much happier with Harris' casting in this movie if she was playing Cedar Leiter. I could have gotten down with that. I always imagined Felix Leiter to look like Robert Redford. |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5542 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:39 am | |
| Don't know why so many people fap over Wright's Leiter. He's got the charisma of a tree stump. He makes Old Man Felix from GF and Felix Costanza from DAF look sprightly. |
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Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 00 Agent
Posts : 8500 Member Since : 2010-05-12 Location : Strawberry Fields
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:11 am | |
| I really like Cec Linder's Felix :)
But Jack Lord and Hedison are my favourite Leiters. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:19 am | |
| - Quote :
- Actor Idris Elba says it would be “an absolute honour” to become the first black James Bond.
The 'Luther' star, from Hackney in London, is reportedly set to replace current 007, Daniel Craig, after 'Skyfall' actress Naomie Harris claimed he was in talks with the movie franchise's producer, Barbara Broccoli.
And while he refuses to confirm the rumours, he admits he would love to take on the part.
He told the London Evening Standard: “Who wouldn't want to do that role? It would be an absolute honour. But Daniel Craig is doing an amazing job and I don't think he's going to be moving any time soon.” http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/93020/Idris-Elba-Id-Be-Honoured-To-Be-First-Black-James-Bond |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5542 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:35 am | |
| - FieldsMan wrote:
- I really like Cec Linder's Felix :)
Me too. He gets a bum rap for being long in the tooth. - Quote :
- Actor Idris Elba says it would be “an absolute honour” to become the first black James Bond.
I'd also be honoured to be the first white Shaft. Though it'd just end up being knock-off of The Hebrew Hammer. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:36 am | |
| - CJB wrote:
- Don't know why so many people fap over Wright's Leiter. He's got the charisma of a tree stump. He makes Old Man Felix from GF and Felix Costanza from DAF look sprightly.
Agreed. Overall, he made for a bland character. The characters helped to make CASINO ROYALE a great novel. I feel like the film focused too much on the relationships between Bond and his mother, M, and Bond and Vesper. Mathis and Leiter just seemed to be forced into the story, as if someone who actually read the novel told Martin Campbell that it'd be a good idea to include them. Then, the way Mathis was handled in the sequel was godawful. What a waste of a good character and a good talent. Wright's acting wasn't all that great in ROYALE, too. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:16 am | |
| I liked Wright, my only problem is that they didn't give him more, and in QOS it was even less. |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3693 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:55 pm | |
| My favourite Leiter is Hedison. He's very American and played foil to Bond quite well, yet still had some action skill of his own. I thinkhe best captured the Bond/Felix relationship of the early Fleming novels. As we all know, Eon abandoned Jack Lord to ensure that Bond was the clear alpha in any future Bond/Leiter films. Hence the casting of the less rugged, less physically alpha, of Cec Linder in GF. Even though Rick Van Nutter was a return to the physically capable Leiter, he was still written as very yes-sir no-sir when it came to Bond. I do like the Linder and Norman Burton Leiters too. They weren't as subservient as Van Nutter. They were by design, no threat to Bond in the alpha department, but still were both rather animated assertive foils, who liked taking friendly jabs at Bond. Made for some good repartee. - Erica Ambler wrote:
- Control wrote:
That looks like a real Bond film. Seriously. It most certainly does!!! I could see the Spectre volcano or Drax's Amazon digs featuring in a film like this. If black-Bond wants to re-capture that stylish camp-vibe, I'm on board. Girls vamping in outfits again!!! Bring on the black-Bond!!
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5542 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:19 am | |
| We'll have to start calling them Bond Bitches. |
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jet set willy 'R'
Posts : 441 Member Since : 2011-04-02 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:15 am | |
| - tiffanywint wrote:
It most certainly does!!! I could see the Spectre volcano or Drax's Amazon digs featuring in a film like this. If black-Bond wants to re-capture that stylish camp-vibe, I'm on board. Girls vamping in outfits again!!! Bring on the black-Bond!! I take it you are joking of course..... |
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jet set willy 'R'
Posts : 441 Member Since : 2011-04-02 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: The inevitability of a black Bond Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:32 pm | |
| Look at this prick here, writing an article on 5 reasons why Idris would be a good Bond. Tosser!! :evil:
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/10/25/1092001/idris-elba-james-bond/?mobile=nc |
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