The Star Trek Thread, 3.0

I've seen one of these for MAD MEN. This one isn't as spot-on to me.

I like that Odo and the Female Changeling, Kira and Winn, and Sisko and Dukat are all directly opposed.

TNG SD-HD comparison. Best to watch in fullscreen to see the full effect.

https://www.youtube.com/v/bW8s-JUhtiw

Just started following this new web comic strip WESLEY CRUSHER: ORDINARY TEENAGER

Yes: https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t1756-lalaland-records-star-trek-the-original-series-soundtrack-collection

Senensky has himself a little blog/website thing under his name that is essentially all the interviews he has done about Trek and then some (like how he got fired halfway through THOLIAN WEB ... if you watch the show, you can absolutely tell which stuff is his, because the other half of the show is shot in utterly pedestrian fashion.)

THIS SIDE OF PARADISE, OBSESSION, METAMORPHOSIS, RETURN TO TOMORROW, BREAD & CIRCUSES ... IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY ... they aren't exactly the ones at the top of most peoples' lists, but there are damned few in there that would be anywhere near the bottom half. When I was in jr high OBSESSION was my fave, even over DOOMSDAY MACHINE & BALANCE OF TERROR, and I still enjoy it. And BREAD & CIRCUSES is amazingly funny (probably Coon's stuff, but I'd guess lampooning television is one thing Coon and even GR would have plenty of good reason to let loose) ... Senensky does let Shatner really have a lot of rope, but I think it is because he KNOWS there is going to music under those monologues that makes the raw ham taste like fine steak (if you could isolate Shatner's RISK IS OUR BUSINESS speech from RETURN, and take the music out from under it, I think everybody on earth would be wincing.)

Encounter at Farpoint

been yonks since I saw last it and I suspect for good reason. Doesn't seem to go anywhere with any great meaning or speed. Most moments involving Deanna are unintentionally funny, the whole Beverly/Picard and to a point Wesley thing is dire. Good to see Bones in action, one more time.
The opening scene on the bridge sounded odd, like it was done 'live'...can't describe it but kind of echoey and the actors wooden.

still one such exchange was mildly amusing

Wesley: Are you afraid of Captain Picard?
Beverly: I most certainly am not!

just like a CMO.

The sound issue is a S1 thing, where they obviously sound like they're talking on a set.

Python wrote:

The sound issue is a S1 thing, where they obviously sound like they're talking on a set.

Never noticed it till now. Then again I very rarely touch S1 these days.

Sykes is still in the Beta Quadrant (VOY S6 Reviews)

"Life Line"
This is the one where the EMH goes back to Jupiter Station to help Doc Zimmerman. And the craziest thing about this episode? It is hugely continuity heavy. It's a sequel to "Projections" and "The Swarm" and "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?" and "Pathfinder" and "Message in a Bottle" and so on. Even the alien massage girl is the one from INSURRECTION! It's full of continuity. And it's written by the regular series writers. It's like they wrote it on a bet that they could actually write a script that used continuity.
It's also a pretty good episode, even if its pretty similar to the whole Data/Soong thing from TNG, Picardo's idiosyncratic performances make it worthwhile.
Can we give the Voyager crew the replicator patterns for modern uniforms, though?
# of Crew: 138 Total -- 118 Starfleet, 13 Maquis, 7 Civilians
# of Shuttles: -4
# of Warp Cores: 2
# of Photon Torpedoes: -33
# of Gel Packs: 30
Distance to Alpha Quadrant: 25,398.4 lightyears
Opportunities to Get Home Missed: 11

"Muse"
Joe Menosky's final Trek is a fantastic meta-episode about being a writer on Star Trek. It was smart, cerebral and very well written episode, with the irony that the actual Torres/Kim plot is hilariously contrived with Kim's sudden appearance and resulting rescue. But otherwise really great and smart. A good send-off for Menosky. Also we crashed the Delta Flyer and then left it there. All that tech.
# of Crew: 138 Total -- 118 Starfleet, 13 Maquis, 7 Civilians
# of Shuttles: -4
# of Warp Cores: 2
# of Photon Torpedoes: -33
# of Gel Packs: 30
Distance to Alpha Quadrant: 25,376 lightyears
Opportunities to Get Home Missed: 11

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

Can we give the Voyager crew the replicator patterns for modern uniforms, though?

I would have liked them to wear the TNG uniforms instead, just to reinforce how far behind they are especially by the time they return. It doesn't even make sense for them to wear DS9 uniforms as the rest of Starfleet wears TNG uniforms (except for Equinox, but that's VOY for you). Oh well.

It's difficult to believe an episode like "Life Line" can come from the same people as "Fury". Hell, "Life Line" even remembered that Voyager has wanted terrorists on board, with a Starfleet admiral asking Janeway for an update on the Maquis in his communique.

That's kind of shocking, especially for the sixth season.

My memory of VOY is really fading, as I have zero recollection of "Muse". I kind of abandoned my DS9/VOY air-date run too, instead I've been watching a TOS episode once a day. After I finished "The Menagerie" I decided to revisit VOY with the first part of "Basics" being next on my list. Going from a TOS episode to VOY is like having a newly grilled In-N-Out burger then having reheated McDonald's burger that's one day old.

Here's a clip from the bonus features on the TNG blu-ray. A lot of fans wanted TNG remastered at 16:9 ratio, in this video the people who worked on remastering the show thoroughly explain why they decided against going for 16:9 in great detail.

Anyone else noticing that they're doing everything on TNG-R that they SHOULD NOT AND YET DID on TOS-R? Original Trek just don't get no respect, man.

I also saw this:


For awhile it seems promising, as they're shown going back to the negatives, cleaning up the image and such. Things look like they're going well. Then they're harping about "we don't want to change anything, we want to respect it and the people that made it", then they immediately go on about adding the CGI and rerecording the theme. :x THE FUCK?

I love the Okudas, but I have no idea why they went along with this. There had to be somebody in this production that said "NO! WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS". Also very odd about how they talk about how the original effects were "captivating" for its time, then the video cuts to TOS-R stuff. :shock:

The Naked Now

an episode funny for mostly wrong reasons. Beverly must've been a flighty thing in her teens and Picard, well, making weird grunting noises whenever a woman got all amourous.
Kind of funny looking at Worf here and then looking at the end of DS9. Just like O'Brien in Farpoint or "Conn" as he is then.

Melinda Snodgrass will be watching the extended cut "Measure of a Man" tomorrow at 8pm Pacific and tweet about it: https://twitter.com/MMSnodgrass

The blu-ray will also have an audio commentary with her, Michael Okuda and the director Robert Scheerer.

I'd like to see the extended cut, but I'm not buying the season.

I'm embarking on a long journey to rip most of my DVD collection to an external harddrive so I can sell most of my stuff and travel back to LA lighter whenever I go back. So I'm ripping stuff and watching NUTREK, just so I can get it clear in my head what the plot is in the second half.

*sorry to drone on about NUTREK yet again*

I may make some notes as I go. I actually watched the first 15 or so minutes yesterday, and started there today. Starting with Spock and Amanda actually makes the film a tiny bit more watchable as even though I think Ryder is wildly miscast it's one of the few scenes in the film that isn't horrible. Watching the bar scene I can understand why non-fans enjoyed the film. It sorta goes along smoothly for dumbass entertainment.

But I saw another stupid thing to point out. In the Prime Universe, entry into the Academy requires tests, more tests, and maybe even a letter of recommendation from Benjamin Motherfucking Sisko; and even then you might not get in even if you're a Mozart-like, interdimensional-pedophile-attracting super genius like Wesley Crusher. In the Alternative Universe, you just show up as you are and grab a seat on a shuttle.

The RLM review nitpicks it to hell out of that bit, showing examples from TNG and DS9 clips. Pike even tells Kirk to "enlist", when he should be telling kirk to apply for the academy, otherwise Kirk will just be a non-com like O'Brien's team.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway, since you don't even need to complete your studies before they give you the keys to the flagship.

I really do think it speaks greatly to a huge generational difference. The whole idea that you don't need to work for or earn anything anymore. The "gimme gimme gimme, now now now" generation.

I'd cite that as my biggest problem of the whole thing. I can go along with a lot of stupid stuff, but that ending where they just promote Kirk from Cadet to Captain is one of the dumbest things I have ever watched.

I should do this as a document and then post the whole thing, rather than clog up this thread. But Pike called the Federation an armada.

The White Tuxedo wrote:

I should do this as a document and then post the whole thing, rather than clog up this thread. But Pike called the Federation an armada.

"Peaceful armada"

Adding more military pretensions like "enlist" and "armada" was probably intentional so it could come across easier to the mouth breathers what Starfleet is, otherwise it might sound like some elitist cult.

Python wrote:

The White Tuxedo wrote:

I should do this as a document and then post the whole thing, rather than clog up this thread. But Pike called the Federation an armada.

"Peaceful armada"

Adding more military pretensions like "enlist" and "armada" was probably intentional so it could come across easier to the mouth breathers what Starfleet is, otherwise it might sound like some elitist cult.

"Armada" means "fleet of warships".

And of course, building these warships should require a good deal of security.



Or less security measures than the counter of a 7/11. Nice fence. If you have to tell people not to cross the fence, build a bigger fence. Or maybe a force field.