Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond

https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/28/pierce-brosnan-says-metoo-wont-kill-james-bond-change-character-way-7772204/

He's right. It shouldn't. 

I'm particularly glad to read this:

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"I think Bond will continue in the same vein. I would suspect so, because men will continue to be men and women likewise." - Pierce Brosnan

Alas, it's sure to ruffle a few feathers.

Is he implying there are only two genders?

CJB wrote:

Is he implying there are only two genders?

He'll burn in hell for that...

Absolutely spot on, well worded, honest and as always charming.

And of course it will likely be taken the wrong way by idiots.

I get so tired of Bond being labeled one way or another by those who have never taken a second to analyze the character or situations. When even the films started trying to label Bond starting with the "sexist misogynist dinosaur" line I knew some type of hasty backtracking would come up at some point.

But nowadays everyone seems convinced Bond is something he is not-simply because he has a penchant for the opposite sex...

I wonder how long it will be before Brozza apologizes? You know it's coming. People who publicly speak the truth nowadays always apologize for doing so.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

I wonder how long it will be before Brozza apologizes? You know it's coming. People who publicly speak the truth nowadays always apologize for doing so.

I don't know, purely for the fact there hasn't really been an uproar about it from SJWs (as far as I know) so there's no demand for an apology. 

You know there's an issue with the world if people start honing in on Brosnan, the only monogamous person in Hollywood.

Surely Brosnan's Mamma Mia badges means he's immune from such criticism?

You're never really immune. No matter how impeccable your peesea credentials and how devastating your crusades on behalf of so-called "social justice," one little misstep and the Waffen SJWs will be down around your ears like a load of bricks. Looks like Brozza's little indelicate truism may have slipped through the cracks, luckily for him...

True. A sad indictment of the times we live in.

hegottheboot wrote:

Absolutely spot on, well worded, honest and as always charming.

And of course it will likely be taken the wrong way by idiots.

I get so tired of Bond being labeled one way or another by those who have never taken a second to analyze the character or situations. When even the films started trying to label Bond starting with the "sexist misogynist dinosaur" line I knew some type of hasty backtracking would come up at some point.

But nowadays everyone seems convinced Bond is something he is not-simply because he has a penchant for the opposite sex...

Truthfully, Bond is a terrible person. I acknowledge that and I'm still a fan because I find the character fascinating. When Bond killed Dent in DR. NO it was shocking in 1962 because heroes typically didn't kill people in cold blood. But as Fleming once said, Bond is not a hero. He's a man the fights the good fight.

I think if more of the critics understood that Bond was never meant to be played up as a role model then they'd put their focus elsewhere.

I think Bond is like any of the great immortal characters in that anyone can project things into them and take their own interpretation from it-and each adaptation moves with the times unless they lose sight of the core elements as EON has.

But I can't buy our beloved Commander as a terrible person. He is the ultimate outsider, a loner who is permanently removed from society and yet finds occasional glimpses of his buried humanity. Sure he may be a dark character at times but that goes with the job. Even Holmes had his darker moments. To me Bond is and always will be a hero because he maintains his own self integrity, honor and intelligence throughout by being the ultimate loner.

hegottheboot wrote:

I think Bond is like any of the great immortal characters in that anyone can project things into them and take their own interpretation from it-and each adaptation moves with the times unless they lose sight of the core elements as EON has.

But I can't buy our beloved Commander as a terrible person. He is the ultimate outsider, a loner who is permanently removed from society and yet finds occasional glimpses of his buried humanity. Sure he may be a dark character at times but that goes with the job. Even Holmes had his darker moments. To me Bond is and always will be a hero because he maintains his own self integrity, honor and intelligence throughout by being the ultimate loner.

Hear hear.

To be honest, the interactions with the Bond girls have felt so strained and forced in much of the Daniel Craig era that I'm not entirely sure how they could fall into danger of being condemned by the #MeToo movement. During much of the hotel scene in "Spectre", I had the feeling that DC would have rather been waxing his car than engaging in even very modest flourishes of frivolity with Léa Seydoux.

Even Daniel Craig as Joe Bang in "Logan Lucky" was more at ease with his own sexuality and the opposite sex (e.g. the scene in the car with Elvis' granddaughter).

By far he has looked most comfortable opposite Dame Judi Dench's M.

Salomé wrote:

To be honest, the interactions with the Bond girls have felt so strained and forced in much of the Daniel Craig era that I'm not entirely sure how they could fall into danger of being condemned by the #MeToo movement. During much of the hotel scene in "Spectre", I had the feeling that DC would have rather been waxing his car than engaging in even very modest flourishes of frivolity with Léa Seydoux.

Agreed. I'm not sure why the scene is appraised by some Bond fans. Since the film grinds to a halt at this moment, there needs to be some kind of connection between Bond and Swann to push things along. It's just actors saying lines, and then waiting for them to stumble across something that will kick of the film again.

FieldsMan wrote:

Salomé wrote:

To be honest, the interactions with the Bond girls have felt so strained and forced in much of the Daniel Craig era that I'm not entirely sure how they could fall into danger of being condemned by the #MeToo movement. During much of the hotel scene in "Spectre", I had the feeling that DC would have rather been waxing his car than engaging in even very modest flourishes of frivolity with Léa Seydoux.

Agreed. I'm not sure why the scene is appraised by some Bond fans. Since the film grinds to a halt at this moment, there needs to be some kind of connection between Bond and Swann to push things along. It's just actors saying lines, and then waiting for them to stumble across something that will kick of the film again.

As with much of SP, it's the aesthetics I like here. The sepia tones and Bond finding and enjoying some mystery liquor (Swann's "inheritance"). I also thought Seydoux was particularly sexy during this sequence, not that Bond seemed particularly aroused, mark you...

After all the furore around the shower fuck in Skyfall can you imagine the reaction if Bond was seen to "take advantage" of a plastered gal?

Never understood the fuss over the Skyfall scene. Looked like 2 consenting adults from where I was sitting.

Blunt Instrument wrote:

Never understood the fuss over the Skyfall scene. Looked like 2 consenting adults from where I was sitting.

Likewise.

Blunt Instrument wrote:

Never understood the fuss over the Skyfall scene. Looked like 2 consenting adults from where I was sitting.

It was. But heterosexual sex is an outrage! An outrage, I tell you!

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Blunt Instrument wrote:

Never understood the fuss over the Skyfall scene. Looked like 2 consenting adults from where I was sitting.

Especially since the conceit of all Bond films is that the women are ultimately consenting. The only one I was never entirely comfortable with was his coercion with Pat. Even though we see her enjoying the mink glove later, how it preceded is less sexy and more creepy.

He arguably forces himself on Pussy (steady) in the barn scene in GF, too.

But hey. Different times.

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At times, albeit mostly in my own company ... such are the joys of everyone else in your social circle having become married parents.

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