Paula Patton for SKYFALL

I watched Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol last night.

I was not impressed by the movie at all.

The only thing that impressed me was Paula Patton !!



it's not too late to recast Skyfall and replace what's her name?

that talent-less African Actress.

she's so forgettable in everything, I cannot even remember her name!

even during the Skyfall official announcement, she was BLAND and BORING as if she was a fifth wheel!!

that's how talented she is!!

Actors and Actresses have been replaced in mid-productions of a movie before, even the ones in the major roles; it happens all the time!!

:cheers:

Bond films have frequently been accused of apeing the Bourne trilogy. The last thing we need is for people to accuse the series of ripping off MISSION IMPOSSIBLE by recasting a role and giving it to an actor based on her performance in a rival franchise.

Besides, Naomie Harris has already shot scenes for SKYFALL. If EON were to re-cast her role, they would have to go back and re-shoot everything she had done, wasting time and likely pushing the release date back. I also fail to see how her appearance at the press conference will in any way representative of her performance in the film, especially considering that she was not in character or acting at the conference.

Keep it the way it is. We'll see how it works.

Using Comic Sans isn't going to make me do anything. And by "fifth wheel" do you mean "third wheel"?

Mr. Brown wrote:

Keep it the way it is. We'll see how it works.

j7 isn't talking about Berenice Marlohe. He's talking about "that talent-less African Actress", or - as it appears on her driver's licence - Naomie Harris.

Jack Wade wrote:

Using Comic Sans isn't going to make me do anything.

Just when you thought j7 couldn't get any more ridikorus, he uses Comic Sans. It's like he hits rock bottom and continues to dig.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Mr. Brown wrote:

Keep it the way it is. We'll see how it works.

j7 isn't talking about Berenice Marlohe. He's talking about "that talent-less African Actress", or - as it appears on her driver's licence - Naomie Harris.

Yeah, I realized that, and didn't really know how to respond to his post.

Plus, I needed an excuse to post that picture.

I didn't use COMIC SANS font.

I posted this thread in normal DEFAULT font with NO BOLD LETTERING and it was originally titled "It's Not Too Late To Recast Skyfall"

Then someone changed the title to "Recasting Skyfall" and now it's changed to "Paula Patton for Bond 23"

They also changed my font and used BOLD Lettering.

Who did all that?!?

It can only be someone with MOD access!!

I removed the Comic Sans.

I don't see an issue with the modified thread title, though.

This thread might need more Berenice Marlohe.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

j7 isn't talking about Berenice Marlohe. He's talking about "that talent-less African Actress", or - as it appears on her driver's licence - Naomie Harris.

I don't have anything against Naomie because she is African.

Paula Patton is African American.

I think Naomie has no screen presence (and I've seen 90% of her films) and no charisma and personality in her acting: she's stiff as a wooden board!!

She also has no presence at public appearances - look at her here at the British Academy Awards - she looks like she is bored and annoyed and she doesn't want to be there, not even a 1/4 smile!!



Compare her to Paula - just look at these photos!!

Paula has presence and personality and aura and she knows how to work the crowd and the photographers - she walks into a room and she lights up the whole room!!

j7wild wrote:

I don't have anything against Naomie because she is African.

Paula Patton is African American.

But phrasing it as "that talentless African American" is hardly the most appropriate way to put it.

And of the four principal cast members in GHOST PROTOCOL, I found Patton to be the worst of them. Visibly so.

j7wild wrote:

She also has no presence at public appearances - look at her here at the British Academy Awards - she looks like she is bored and annoyed and she doesn't want to be there, not even a 1/4 smile!!

Compare her to Paula - just look at these photos!!

Paula has presence and personality and aura and she knows how to work the crowd and the photographers - she walks into a room and she lights up the whole room!!

Right, because the ability to walk the red carpet at an awards show is the single most important skill an actor can have when acting. Once again, you demosntrate that you have no idea of what is actually required for making a film. According to you, having an extensive cache of bikini shots is the defining factor in an actor's performance. Idiot.

Now, let's just say Naomie Harris is a horrible actor and will utterly ruin SKYFALL. Remember, we're talking hypotheticals here. Why must she be replaced by Paula Patton on the basis of Patton's performance in MISSION IMPOSSIBLE? MISSION IMPOSSIBLE is perhaps the closest thing Bond has to a rival right now. All anyone is going to think of Patton in SKYFALL is "she's that girl from MISSION IMPOSSIBLE" and no doubt accuse Bond of ripping off a rival franchise. Again. And all of it at a time when the producers, actors and directors are promising the best Bond film ever - surely stunt-casting an actor from a rival franchise on the basis of their performance in that rival franchise is a case of shooting themselves in the foot?

Isn't there some other African-American actor that could be cast in the role? Or are Naomie Harris and Paula Patton the only two African-American actors out there?

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Right, because the ability to walk the red carpet at an awards show is the single most important skill an actor can have when acting. Once again, you demosntrate that you have no idea of what is actually required for making a film. According to you, having an extensive cache of bikini shots is the defining factor in an actor's performance. Idiot.

yeah coming from you, Mr. Not Intelligent Conversation, that's not saying much.

you only know how to hold a conversation by insulting.

since you think you are a rocket scientist, why don't you enlighten us, Mr. Self-Proclaimed Movie Making God?

I know more about Movie Making than you ever will - I called many miscasts of actors and actresses in many movies including Bond Films (Halle Berry, Denise Richards, Tanya Roberts) and Non Bond films before the movies even began filming.

I'd also predicted many movies to become Best Picture just by looking at a teaser trailer months before the movie was even released and became a critically acclaimed box office hit.

2 examples: Forrest Gump and American Beauty.

I predicted those 2 films to become Best Picture of the Year just by the teaser trailer 1/2 a year before they were even released and people who seen the trailer laughed at me.

I called for Angelina Jolie to be cast as Lara Croft and I'd even wrote EIDOS and PARAMOUNT and MUTUAL FILM COMPANY about it when everyone was stuck up on Catherine Zeta Jones.

I can go on and on - you don't want to take me on!!

Mark my words: when Skyfall is released, there will be more Critics shooting down Naomie's performance and casting and her character than the number of Critics praising her!!

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Isn't there some other African-American actor that could be cast in the role? Or are Naomie Harris and Paula Patton the only two African-American actors out there?

I thought Zoe Saldana might have been the obvious choice if an African- actress was being sought...Naomie was a surprise (isn't she an Afro-Brit?) but I'm still giving her a chance. I don't think her role will be embarassing as that of previous black Bond girls, ie a bubblehead (Rosie Carver), a chick with dick (May Day) or a total c*nt like Jinx.

j7wild, all you need are some good photos of Naomie to wank off to and you'll be a changed man...I'll see what I can whip up.

j7wild wrote:

you only know how to hold a conversation by insulting.

If I called you an idiot, it's because you said someting idiotic. And yes, claiming that one actor will be a disaster for a film because another actor looks happier on the red carpet is idiotic. You might as well have predicted that Usain Bolt will win gold at the London Olympics because Jamaica had the best costumes during the Opening Ceremony. Sure, Bolt will probably win - but it won't be because he was wearing a snazzy jumpsuit when he walked into the stadium for the first time.

I mean, look at your "evidence" that Harris is a bad choice: one lousy photo on the red carpet. You then proceeded to post two dozen photos of Patton as "evidence" that she is a better choice - despite the fact that half of them weren't actually taken on the red carpet, when you had previously held this up as an example of Harris being an inappropriate choice for Bond. So can you maybe see why I think your post is fallacious at best. I mean, did it occur to you that maybe there was a reason why Harris didn't look too flattering in that photo? Knowing you and your vast reserves of photos, I'm sure you've got plenty of her that look good on the red carpet that you deliberately haven't posted. Like, say, this one, taken from the 2010 Toronto Film Festival:



And I got that just by Googling "Naomie Harris" - it's her portrait on her Wikipedia page.

j7wild wrote:

I know more about Movie Making than you ever will

I doubt that, considering that I'm an English teacher and my area of speciality is film. All I've seen from you Victoria's Secret back catalogues.

j7wild wrote:

I called many miscasts of actors and actresses in many movies including Bond Films (Halle Berry, Denise Richards, Tanya Roberts) and Non Bond films before the movies even began filming.

I'd also predicted many movies to become Best Picture just by looking at a teaser trailer months before the movie was even released and became a critically acclaimed box office hit.

Your ability to predict Oscar winners and offer an opinion on casting choices does not make you an expert on film-making. It just makes you a person who goes to the cinema a lot.

j7wild wrote:

Mark my words: when Skyfall is released, there will be more Critics shooting down Naomie's performance and casting and her character than the number of Critics praising her!!

That's funny - I seem to recall you making dire predictions about casting choices in CASINO ROYALE before it was released. And if i recall correctly, none of them came true.

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Right, because the ability to walk the red carpet at an awards show is the single most important skill an actor can have when acting. Once again, you demosntrate that you have no idea of what is actually required for making a film. According to you, having an extensive cache of bikini shots is the defining factor in an actor's performance.

She's playing a Bond girl. Replaceable Love Interest #42. Not Lady MacBeth.

Cast them with a wet t-shirt contest like they did Andress, I say.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

j7wild wrote:

I don't have anything against Naomie because she is African.

Paula Patton is African American.

But phrasing it as "that talentless African American" is hardly the most appropriate way to put it.

There's no good way to put it when a black/Negro/African-American/person-of-color is being recast. No matter how you say it, you're going to get shit for it. Now, having said that......

...I have a lot of reasons why I can't go along with J-Wow on this issue.

#1 If press conference presentation was the bar, then Daniel Craig never would have made it as Bond. His introduction to the world's press in a life jacket, looking sea sick, with long, sickly, stringy hair, made him look totally unfit for the role.

#2 It's really, really, really not a good idea to take on another franchise's sloppy seconds. Mission Impossible, while a vastly inferior film product, is a direct genre competitor to 007. Paula Patton can now not be a Bond Girl. She has disqualified herself. While I probably mentioned Paula Patton along the line over the past few years as a potential Bond Girl, she's now off limits (having starred in GHAST PROTOCOL).

#3 You can't replace a brown, African-American actress with a lighter-skinned African American actress; the person of colour community would be in an uproar and it would be horrible publicity for the film. And I'm assuming that you suggested Paula Patton as a worthy minority alternative to Naomi Harris rather than, say, Charlize Theron, and not just because Paula Patton either looks good or can act.

I'm not talking to you anymore Prisoner Monkeys. Your name fits your conversation: not intelligent at all!!

Don't even bother answering my threads in the future.

You are wasting my time!!

:roll:

You are a Teacher?

That explains a lot of things about today's kids!!

Since when is Naomie an AFrican-American? She's a black Brit, no? As for Patton, I haven't seen MI4, but I'd rather have cinema than TV actresses in Bond. Even Romanian porn actresses have a greater cinematic quality than most of the bland TV actresses trying to break into cinema have.

Vesper wrote:

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Right, because the ability to walk the red carpet at an awards show is the single most important skill an actor can have when acting. Once again, you demosntrate that you have no idea of what is actually required for making a film. According to you, having an extensive cache of bikini shots is the defining factor in an actor's performance.

She's playing a Bond girl. Replaceable Love Interest #42. Not Lady MacBeth.

Cast them with a wet t-shirt contest like they did Andress, I say.

^ This.

This thread is stupid. It needs more tits.

GeneralGogol wrote:

Even Romanian porn actresses have a greater cinematic quality than most of the bland TV actresses trying to break into cinema have.

What about the actress from Position: Impossible? She didn't have a lot of dialogue (mostly a lot of groaning and moaning), but she really committed to the scene. It was all over her face.

Vesper wrote:

She's playing a Bond girl. Replaceable Love Interest #42. Not Lady MacBeth.

Cast them with a wet t-shirt contest like they did Andress, I say.

That might be appropriate for non-speaking roles. But fr the actual speaking roles, I'd want some assurance that the actor in question can at least, you know, act. Otherwise we get another Denise Richards and everyone bitches about how bad she was.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

There's no good way to put it when a black/Negro/African-American/person-of-color is being recast. No matter how you say it, you're going to get shit for it.

Sure there is. All j7 had to do was go to the SKYFALL Wikipedia or IMdB pages, both of which have a cast list and pictures of Harris. It would have taken thirty second out of his day. Now knowing the actor's name, he simply has to post "I don't believe Naomie Harris is a particularly good actor. I haven't liked her in any of the films that I have seen. But Paula Patton was realy good in GHOST PROTOCOL, so maybe EON could look at replacing Harris with Patton" instead of "that talentless African-American".

Shit averted.

j7wild wrote:

I'm not talking to you anymore Prisoner Monkeys. Your name fits your conversation: not intelligent at all!!

That's the way you want to play it, huh? I point out the flaws in your arguments, the way you have skewed evidence and the way that having an opinion does not make you an expert on film-making, and your response is to throw your toys out of the pram.

Bring back dubbing.

Sharky wrote:

Bring back dubbing.

If Nicky van der Zyl is still in the business, then why not?

I didn't call Naomie an African American.

Read my original post.

I called her an African.

I know she's not American and that she's British.

Then she's Afro-British.