Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:07 am
I thought mansplaining constitutes a man explaining something to a woman on the mistaken assumption she does not yet understand whatever he is explaining.
There might be examples of that in the Bond universe, but I honestly can't think of any from the top of my head.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:13 am
Perhaps the literal definition, but I usually see it employed when, as mentioned, a man gives his views to a woman.
Eg.
Female politician: I believe raising taxes is good.
Male politician: I disagree and believe cutting taxes would be better.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:06 pm
Having given this some thought, the two (though probably debatable) instances that could demonstrate mansplaining are Bond instructing Anya to drive as they escape Jaws in Egypt (though this is more comical than anything else), and Bond "lecturing" Pam about professionalism as they speed away from Barrelhead.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:26 am
Sabs, what do you know about Lou Roy-Lecollinet, featured here in one of PC Music's incredible tracks, Broken Flowers (PC Music also worked on the sublime 'Hey QT!')?
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:56 pm
Kristin Scott Thomas as a Bond girl? At 58? Hilarious. Any actress who's played Clemmie before being a Bond girl should automatically put her out of the running. Though I suppose she does look younger than Craig.
I recall a comment made about her sister becoming a Bond girl but she's had a better career.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:08 am
Hope the recovery is speedy for Blake Lively, but I'd be lying if I'm hoping this is the thing to delay Bond 25-- and wedge Craig out of the role.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:55 am
I'm just glad because it sounds like a distraction from the series and something to pull their focus into that isn't worth it. Reading the novel summary and knowing what the current trending marketplace will turn it into does not spell the same kind of intent behind Harry going off after GF to produce The IPCRESS File.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:10 pm
Part of me hopes so. They can flush out whatever is in their system with Craig's final film, and then back to business with a new, better Bond and vision for Bond 26.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:27 pm
I'm not sure. Nolan was interviewed for Desert Island Discs and ruled himself out but says he'd very much like to as they've influenced him all these years. We'd know soon enough you'd imagine.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:00 am
Here's the latest. The Deadline: Hollywood website says that Boyle and his writer had an idea and that the writer is working on a script now. If the script (when it's finished) is deemed as good, Eon and MGM will drop the script that Purvis & Wade have been working on.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:41 am
Very interesting Napoleon Solo. Thanks for the update.
Sounds as though it's a first draft as well, which means it's going to go through several rewrites, meetings, etc. This is probably going drag out Bond 25's production even longer. If it means Craig's out, I'll be glad if Danny Boyle jumps in with this new script.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:00 am
Napoleon Solo wrote:
Here's the latest. The Deadline: Hollywood website says that Boyle and his writer had an idea and that the writer is working on a script now. If the script (when it's finished) is deemed as good, Eon and MGM will drop the script that Purvis & Wade have been working on.
Why work on a script with Boyle if the Purvis/Wade script is any good? Sounds like PW script is Plan B, and that's never a good look. Also, didn't Babs say last year they were looking forward to making a big announcement at the beginning of the year? The presumption was she'd announce a director, but now that's fallen through because they haven't settled on a story or script. Somewhat mind-boggling that at this late date they've begun work on a new script. It's like SPECTRE all over again. You'd think lessons were learned on that debacle, but I think one reason Craig is being asked to come back is in some sort of vain way to attempt to salvage the Craig series after the bad taste SPECTRE left in many people's mouths (similar to what Sigourney Weaver did with ALIEN RESURRECTION).
I'm not a big Tom Cruise or M:I fan, but the trailer for MI:Fallout looks excellent. Kind of sad I'm more interested in MI than BOND25, but that's where things stand with this series. I think all parties involved with Bond need to move on from it instead of making BOND 25. It's a cash grab for Craig, Barbara seems to have no idea where to take the series that doesn't involve making Bond a female or black, and Michael Wilson seems to have been put out to pasture, as all the relevant decision making now seems to be done by Babs. Broccoli family should end this with dignity and sell rights to someone who has real, genuine, authentic interest in series. Broccoli's are tapped out creatively.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:24 am
Agreed. Especially about MI:Fallout.
And though I suspect Babs is calling the shots, I do wonder what the conversations are really like between her and Michael.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:32 am
Baz Bamigajfjkvsj tweeted that Babs, Mike and Crag attended a meeting with Boyle and Hodge re: the script, and that the former three are willing to wait for Boyle to finish directing his next project if the script is good enough.
As we know, Baz has a good track record so should be noted.
If Craig is backing Boyle, then no matter when Bond 25 goes into production (i.e. ready for 2019 release or 2020 and beyond) Craig will stay.
There's just no getting out of Craig coming back, it seems.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:48 pm
FieldsMan wrote:
Baz Bamigajfjkvsj tweeted that Babs, Mike and Crag attended a meeting with Boyle and Hodge re: the script, and that the former three are willing to wait for Boyle to finish directing his next project if the script is good enough.
As we know, Baz has a good track record so should be noted.
If Craig is backing Boyle, then no matter when Bond 25 goes into production (i.e. ready for 2019 release or 2020 and beyond) Craig will stay.
There's just no getting out of Craig coming back, it seems.
So the possibility exists that there could be as much as a 4-5 year gap between SPECTurd and BOND25. If the gap is 4.5 - 5 years, that would make it the longest gap between films when a legal proceeding was not at the heart of the issue. In other words, it'd be the longest gap in Bond history due to the principals involved not being able to get their act together.
If we were waiting this long for a movie that was introducing a new Bond actor, I could wait patiently. But 4 to 5 years for one actor's last swan song is a bit much.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:01 pm
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
FieldsMan wrote:
Baz Bamigajfjkvsj tweeted that Babs, Mike and Crag attended a meeting with Boyle and Hodge re: the script, and that the former three are willing to wait for Boyle to finish directing his next project if the script is good enough.
As we know, Baz has a good track record so should be noted.
If Craig is backing Boyle, then no matter when Bond 25 goes into production (i.e. ready for 2019 release or 2020 and beyond) Craig will stay.
There's just no getting out of Craig coming back, it seems.
So the possibility exists that there could be as much as a 4-5 year gap between SPECTurd and BOND25. If the gap is 4.5 - 5 years, that would make it the longest gap between films when a legal proceeding was not at the heart of the issue. In other words, it'd be the longest gap in Bond history due to the principals involved not being able to get their act together.
If we were waiting this long for a movie that was introducing a new Bond actor, I could wait patiently. But 4 to 5 years for one actor's last swan song is a bit much.
For one actor's last swan song who hasn't really delivered in the role, who is visibly too old, and is clearly not interested in the character anymore.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:15 pm
Too right. There's only one option left lads, get GEORGE LAZENBY!
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:43 pm
More tempting than you know, Hilly.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:54 pm
If only, if only.
I wasn't thrilled parting money with QOS in the cinema. Parting money for a Craig film with him below autopilot doesn't enthuse.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:03 pm
Good point. It didn't feel right for SPECTRE, and I had locked myself into a few different screenings.
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I just watched film commentators discussing Danny Boyle directing the film, and they all seem to be creaming themselves over the news. Why is Danny Boyle such a right fit for the film?
I can see why Babs likes the idea of his directing. He did produce Battle of the Sexes, which was a feminazi's dream. Slumdog Millionaire felt light years away from being a Bond film, as did 127 Hours. I liked Steve Jobs, but that has more to do with Aaron Sorkin's screenplay and the lead performances than anything else. Still, this doesn't suggest James Bond at all.
Haven't seen the Trainspotting films so can't comment there.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:36 am
FieldsMan wrote:
Haven't seen the Trainspotting films so can't comment there.
Danny Boyle once seemed an exciting talent, though that was a very long time ago. Certainly, Shallow Grave and the original Trainspotting are worth seeing, though today it's hard to understand the excitement TS created when it first appeared.
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Subject: Re: Bond 25 (2019) Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:53 am
Strictly speaking (as the director of the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony) Boyle has already directed Craig's Bond.