No Time to Die (2020)

That's jocular-ish banter? Gone are the days of Tom Mankiewicz and Bruce Feirstein.

Yes they are. Well spotted.

Blunt Instrument wrote:

The supposed dialogue merely sounds like a bit of jocular-ish banter between Bond and Madeline, but the Mail have framed it in such a way to get their traditionally-minded readership frothing at the mouth. Classic clickbait trick.

Doesn't matter what she's called, anyway ... we all know she's doomed.  

I don't think so. I think she lives and is tucked away while he goes off to save the world one more time. There will be no other Bond Girl. Ana De Aramis will get the Solange/Strawberry Fields/Severine treatment: five minutes of on-screen time and then murdered off. Lynch will not be a Bond Girl in any of the traditional senses.

Bond comes back to Swann in the end. Which will make the preceding two-hours a headscratcher and leaving fans and moviegoers wondering exactly why this film was made.

A brief amount of screentime might explain the lack of Ana in any of the production pics and clips that have emerged, right enough.

I think she only got on the film because Craig is friends with her after working on KNIVES OUT, so a small part might have been the best she could get.

I don't think she'll die though. They already worn that trope out and let Lucia live in SP. de Armis will have her brief moment in Cuba, then the film will move forward.

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

If Boobs Broccoli hasn't worked out the correlation between woke and broke by now there's truly no hope. Truth is, she's on an irrepressible ideological mission and may as well be in the cockpit of a Zero hurtling towards a battleship.

CJB wrote:

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

If Boobs Broccoli hasn't worked out the correlation between woke and broke by now there's truly no hope. Truth is, she's on an irrepressible ideological mission and may as well be in the cockpit of a Zero hurtling towards a battleship.

It seems like all these producers know, they have to know but don't seem to care. The plan seems to be make a really horrible movie, destroy a franchise and move on to the next as if money and the box office doesn't matter to them and maybe it doesn't.

if you take out all the SJW aspects of these movies coming out lately it wouldn't really help much as the movies themselves are dreadful in all ways

it does all seem on purpose too

I mean if anyone sat down with the goal of deliberately making a movie as bad as the last Terminator or Star Wars I don't think they would be as successful at it compared to what the studios actually did turn out
it's impressive in a way

de Armas' comments about Lynch's character being the main female lead in the film, as well as discussion points about Nomi worrying about her weight (part of her character's backstory) feels very much like all the leaked information surrounding Oberhauser being Blofeld. That being, it's not looking good.

Who the hell wants to watch a Bond film where the main Bond girl is worried about her weight?

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

Have to say, I'm openly rooting against NTTD. I'm hoping it fails miserably at the box office. The only thing that I can think that could possibly save the series at this point is that Tits McBroccoli burns down the house to such a degree that she's forced to sell to someone who truly cares about the series moving forward. The damage she and Loverboy Craig have done is done. No going back and fixing that. But there's still hope that someone out there in a position of power in Hollywood may have enough clout to buy the series and return it to its glory days of Pussy Galores and Xenia Onatopps.

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

Well, they've lost my money on this film. I usually watch a new Bond film three or four times in the cinema, and I'm boycotting this one. Hopefully, many others follow suit.

Sarai wrote:

CJB wrote:

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

If Boobs Broccoli hasn't worked out the correlation between woke and broke by now there's truly no hope. Truth is, she's on an irrepressible ideological mission and may as well be in the cockpit of a Zero hurtling towards a battleship.

It seems like all these producers know, they have to know but don't seem to care. The plan seems to be make a really horrible movie, destroy a franchise and move on to the next as if money and the box office doesn't matter to them and maybe it doesn't.

These people often put ideology before profit. It's one of the strengths of the Left, but it's bad for everybody else, and it's catastrophic for culture.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

bitchcraft wrote:

Well this is a bit worrying. Now that the new Terminator film has tanked and is being ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd (and rightly so), they are now beginning to turn their attention to  the next film that will face a similar fate, No Time To Die. Lynch becoming 007 has pissed off many and saying things like the women wear the pants in this movie does not fucking help at all.

I hope Bond land is very aware of this.

Well, they've lost my money on this film. I usually watch a new Bond film three or four times in the cinema, and I'm boycotting this one. Hopefully, many others follow suit.

There is nothing more I love than a good boycott.

"It's one of the strengths of the Left, but it's bad for everybody else, and it's catastrophic for culture."


It could turn out to be one of the best things for culture if it causes people to tune out Hollywood and cut the cord.

True. But it seems most people are too stupid and/or apathetic to make a stand.

I'm not all that optimistic it will actually happen. There is the brainwash aspect of it all too and media is the new religion that indoctrinates most since youth. Religion has always been the problem but most people fail to recognize just what religion really is and that they are part of it.  God is in the TV...plop the child in front of it and you have them for life.

lose the world series and people lose their minds, tears, anger, the emotions are insane
The MIC kills a few more 100,000 in the ME and..meh...

I'm also tempted not to go, but curiosity will get the better of me, and then I'll have grounds to say 'I told you so!'

That said, it's all so very ironic this discussion is taking place when this whole situation is firmly rooted in the much lauded CR06.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Well, they've lost my money on this film. I usually watch a new Bond film three or four times in the cinema, and I'm boycotting this one. Hopefully, many others follow suit.

I'm waiting on the trailers, if Bond seems to be a secondary character in this film, that would be the deal-breaker for me.

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:

I'm also tempted not to go, but curiosity will get the better of me, and then I'll have grounds to say 'I told you so!'

That said, it's all so very ironic this discussion is taking place when this whole situation is firmly rooted in the much lauded CR06.

There was nothing particularly "woke" about CR. If there was, I wouldn't rate it so highly. Now, QoS, on the other hand, is the most leftwing Bond film ever made, although even it has a certain amount of political nuance to it. The forthcoming abomination, however, shows every sign of being a hideous deformation of everything Ian Fleming's Bond stands for.

what are the left wing elements in QoS?

The Jinx spinoff idea looks ever more attractive compared to this ever increasing nonsense.

It can't possibly get any worse you think and then it does. Hearing any reference to nttd in regular life is literally like another piece of my spirit being brutally murdered. I think I have little left since it started in that dark theater in 2006 where part of me died.

How is it that they let M:I continually steal the series thunder with empty yet effectively crafted sequels and eventually turn up with a lumbering buffoon of a modernized empty picture that makes no friends with audiences and alienates everyone?

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:

That said, it's all so very ironic this discussion is taking place when this whole situation is firmly rooted in the much lauded CR06.

There was nothing particularly "woke" about CR. If there was, I wouldn't rate it so highly. Now, QoS, on the other hand, is the most leftwing Bond film ever made, although even it has a certain amount of political nuance to it. The forthcoming abomination, however, shows every sign of being a hideous deformation of everything Ian Fleming's Bond stands for.

Yeah, I didn't get any hint of politics or social preachiness in CR. It's actually rather surprising when you think about it. In DAD they flogged the Bond's Eeeekwol horse mercilessly but in CR you had Vesper, a desk jockey who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other. The reboot angle, if anything, made Bond more macho. In hindsight, it was the last Bond film before the social media disease clawed its way onto the scene.

Sarai wrote:

what are the left wing elements in QoS?

I imagine Khanners means Bond's remark about los Yankees only caring about coke and communism. Uncharacteristically bolshie for James Bond.

Granted, a very old-school Tory might harbour resentment towards US foreign policy when it came to the decolonisation of the Empire but Bond's comments were undoubtedly spat out from a very different, Guardianista angle.

The 'coke and Communism' line is quite Lefty, but QOS also posits the idea that an apparently Left-leaning 'eco-concerns' businessman is just frontin' to cover up his ruthless bastardry .

CJB wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:

That said, it's all so very ironic this discussion is taking place when this whole situation is firmly rooted in the much lauded CR06.

There was nothing particularly "woke" about CR. If there was, I wouldn't rate it so highly. Now, QoS, on the other hand, is the most leftwing Bond film ever made, although even it has a certain amount of political nuance to it. The forthcoming abomination, however, shows every sign of being a hideous deformation of everything Ian Fleming's Bond stands for.

Yeah, I didn't get any hint of politics or social preachiness in CR. It's actually rather surprising when you think about it. In DAD they flogged the Bond's Eeeekwol horse mercilessly but in CR you had Vesper, a desk jockey who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other. The reboot angle, if anything, made Bond more macho. In hindsight, it was the last Bond film before the social media disease clawed its way onto the scene.

Sarai wrote:

what are the left wing elements in QoS?

I imagine Khanners means Bond's remark about los Yankees only caring about coke and communism. Uncharacteristically bolshie for James Bond.

Granted, a very old-school Tory might harbour resentment towards US foreign policy when it came to the decolonisation of the Empire but Bond's comments were undoubtedly spat out from a very different, Guardianista angle.

Yes, that. Also Dominic's remark that "We don't want Marxists giving resources to the people, now, do we?" He also says, "We [Quantum] deal with dictators and liberators," which ludicrously suggests that "liberators" are not often themselves dictators posing as liberators. And, he tells Medrano about Haiti's president mandating a pay raise from 50 cents per day to a dollar a day for sweatshop workers and how this outraged American corporations and precipitated his removal. There's also Bond berating Leiter with the "broken crockery" of America's Latin American foreign policy. Now some of these criticisms and remarks may have a bit of merit, but they all definitely spring from Leftist positions.