Bond Girl Rumours!

Lets hope MGW and Babs read the fan boards. Maybe something will sink in and B23 will have more in common with classic movie Bond than QoS.
I say this having watched a few dvd commentaries recently.
The fimmakers I listened to, liked to go on about the fans and internet chat, and feared getting in trouble with the base.
I noticed this bent from both Brett Ratner with X-Men 3 and from Jon Favreau in the Iron Man commentaries.
Both directors seemed to be very responsive to feedback from the base.
Although in our case, I wonder if Babs actually cares.Ratner and Favreau both took custody of iconic comic characters.
Ratner also had to respect the work that Bryan Singer did with the first two X-Men films.
Babs on the other hand, given her family name, may figure Bond is her baby and that she can do what she wants.

====anyway back to Naiomi Harris. It does look like she has been given serious consideration.
In the short little video clip (only 1:12) found with this link,

http://filmonic.com/naomie-harris-on-bond-23-speculation

Harris does mention meeting with Babs, Mendes and Casting Director Debbie McWilliams and auditioning for a part. She doesn't know what part though as the method with the Bond films she says, is to audition a part from a previous film.

I just read over at MI6 HQ that Naomie Harris wants to be a traditional Bond girl. This is a good thing. However, she also said she liked Vesper, so could it be contradictory? Vesper wasn't a traditional Bond girl. She could have been - she had the right look, but her character in the novel wasn't faithfully used. I am sceptical about Harris. However, the news on India is fascinating. So they might be filming at an Indian studio for three weeks. And with Harris being English born, all I can think of is in Octopussy, the hotel girl who shows Bond his room. Now, I'll be up for a girl like that (no pun intended).

I thought Vesper was fairly traditional. Sort of a European Pussy Galore. She was certainly no Rambette or feminista nuclear physicist-cum-cheerleader.

Ed Tom Kowalsky wrote:

I thought Vesper was fairly traditional. Sort of a European Pussy Galore. She was certainly no Rambette or feminista nuclear physicist-cum-cheerleader.

Just what I wanted to say. Whatever Eva Green's accent slip-ups and the way the character was written, Vesper certainly went down as a classic Bond girl and was a breath of fresh air in comparison to the likes of Wai Lin, Jinx, and Christmas. Camille worked better as an ally-with-boobs. In any case, I hope the next Bond girl character won't be some sort of spy or agent or any other form of "Bond's equivalent."

What I find interesting about Harris' audition is that they didn't do the usual Tatiana-in-bed scene. I wonder what scene from QOS they used... the "stationery" scene?

Vesper was a breath of fresh bitchiness. No more of these please. We need another Pussy Galore or Tiffany Case. But an Olga encore would be fine too.

Read MI6's article on Naomie Harris.

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From tabloid rumour to official confirmation, the news of Naomie Harris auditioning for a role in the 23rd James Bond film moved at break-neck pace earlier this month. The 34 year-old London born actress, best known to moviegoers for her role as Tia Dalma in two "Pirates of the Caribbean" movies after making her breakthrough in the Danny Boyle dystopian horror "28 Days Later", has given several interviews to the media this week to promote her new film "The First Grader".

In a wide-ranging interview with the Coventry Telegraph, Harris talked about how the 'Bond Girl' role has changed in recent years, and how she does not feel she would be suitable for the classic interpretation.

"I've never played a beautiful vacuous woman. I don't think I'd be very good at it. So if that was the role, it wouldn't appeal," she said.

"But I just don't think Bond would be interested in a woman like that now. The new Bond has to be intellectually stimulated by whoever he's having his dalliances with," she says, giggling.

"What makes Bond films work is that they're responsive to the times. Eva Green's character in Casino Royale was not scantily clad. She was an intelligent, strong, modern woman."

"The older idea of the Bond movie is in the past. Now it appeals to all generations, ages and sexes."


Harris confirmed that she read scenes from "Quantum of Solace" for Bond 23 director Sam Mendes and long-serving casting director Debbie McWilliams. "I've been the biggest fan of Bond for the longest time. I love the Bond movies. My whole family loves it and they'd be so proud of me," she added.

Shooting on Bond 23 is expected to start in November this year, for release in the UK on October 26th, 2012.

She should NOT be a Bond girl. The only "vacuous" Bond girls were Rosie Carver, Goodnight, and Tiffany in the latter half of DAF. Honey, Pussy, Tracy and Tanya aren't some of the best Bond girls for their mere looks. Sure they're absolutely beautiful, but their character is what made them so appealing too, especially for women. They were stunning, yet resourceful. If she wants to play a character akin to Vesper or Jinx, well she could create another franchise. She appears to be too good for James Bond. Instead, we'll call her Jane's Bondage. :roll:

Why use Mi6 as your source of news Fieldsman? There are plenty of places to obtain this info. I thought you were finished with that site. The Harris rumours are not concrete yet, don't get to worried. Seek out other news sites for Bond related stories. DCINB and CBn are available.

I still use MI6's main page as my source for information because I've always used it, even before I joined up with MI6 forums. I don't use the forums, I mean their walls.

Harris is just another entertainment industry robot. She repeats the same "vacuous" idiocy about Bond girls that 99% of actresses will also repeat if asked. Is it infuriating? Yes. But Harris' views are no better or worse than any others I'm afraid.

FieldsMan wrote:

She should NOT be a Bond girl. The only "vacuous" Bond girls were Rosie Carver, Goodnight, and Tiffany in the latter half of DAF.

Throw in Bimbo Jones, Stacey and Schoolgirl Fields, and you've got a list of the series most useless (not to mention worst) Bond Girls.

Taffer wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

She should NOT be a Bond girl. The only "vacuous" Bond girls were Rosie Carver, Goodnight, and Tiffany in the latter half of DAF.

Throw in Bimbo Jones, Stacey and Schoolgirl Fields, and you've got a list of the series most useless (not to mention worst) Bond Girls.

Stacey and Jones were experts in their own field. Whether they're believable or not is a different story. With Fields, she was able to assist Bond at the party, but her role in the story was just as necessary as Honey's in DN: assist Bond in whatever way she can, including sex.

These three girls are no where near the bottom of my list.

In terms of acting, I can see where plenty of Bond girls would be "vacuous"- in terms of being there for tits and no talent. I mean roles like...

Jill Masterson
Tilly Masterson
Paula Caplan
Kissy Suzuki
Plenty O'Toole
Miss Caruso
Goodnight
Naomi
Manuela
all the other MR girls

don't exactly require much acting talent beyond being a pretty face and getting out a few lines with the right facial expressions. I didnt include Rosie Carver because I think we got stuck with a terrible actress rather than necessarily a one-dimensional role, but you could probably throw her in, as well as Tiffany Case once she starts losing any semblence of independant woman-itis. And looking at that list, hardly any of those roles were played by an actress of any substance because they are rather empty roles for actresses.

Naturally as well, there's been plenty of good Bond girl roles, but theres been enough bad ones to have a bit of caution about it.

Yes, Bond girls are sex objects, but Bond girls in your list such as Naomi, Manuela, Jill and Kissy for example all did assist Bond, much like Honey did in DN, much like Fields did in QOS. They all maintained a semblence of resourcefulness (though the extent varied from girl to girl), except for Goodnight, Rosie Carver and Tiffany towards the end of DAF. Characters like Jill, Sylvia and Fields also had a wit that demonstrated they weren't unintelligent. To say all of Bond's previous girls were vacuous is simply ignorant and exasperating and she shouldn't be near Bond at all. Not to mention she doesn't even have the looks to be a part of such an esteemed group (though they did let Carey Lowell and Gloria Hendry in, didn't they...?) At least Eva Green looked stunning and looked the part of Vesper.

Why Jill st John as Tiffany Case is one of the most impressive of all the Bond girls.
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Jill St John as Tiffany Case is one of the most impressive of all the Bond girls, and not only because of her vavoom looks and sassy personality.
St. John herself was an accomplished actress of the era. She also possesses a near genius level IQ- a very smart woman.
As for her character. Tiffany Case was a streetwise Vegas girl - a survivor with a larcenous streak but with the cliched good heart.
She hooked up with Bond not only because Sean was clearly the dominant alpha male in the drama, but also because it was ultimately the smart play. She was scheming to cover herself and stay healthy in the game to the very end -not only by trying to cut a deal with Felix, but also when Ernst grabbed her, she adapted and fooled him into believing she was playing along.
But when Sean appeared back on the scene, with the odds against him, as Ernst seemed to have the stronger hand, she threw back in with Sean at great personal risk to herself, which shows character, certainly not vacuousness.
So she can't a handle a tommy gun. So what? Who can without training?
And she put the wrong tape in the machine, but again so what, she had no reason to believe that Bond has already switched it. Bond failed to communicate clearly what he actually needed done.
She showed courage by at least attempting to make the switch.
Tiff was a very well drawn character, not to mention entertaining. Nothing vacuous about her at all.
She played the game smartly as you might expect someone of her talents would, and displayed some real loyalty towards Bond and the cause of good on the oil rig, despite long odds.
If she was vacuous or superficial, or without conscience, she would have thrown in with Ernst at the end, figuring Bond was dead meat.

To any doubters. Blow up your pants Charlie! :bounce:

FieldsMan wrote:

Taffer wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

She should NOT be a Bond girl. The only "vacuous" Bond girls were Rosie Carver, Goodnight, and Tiffany in the latter half of DAF.

Throw in Bimbo Jones, Stacey and Schoolgirl Fields, and you've got a list of the series most useless (not to mention worst) Bond Girls.

Stacey and Jones were experts in their own field. Whether they're believable or not is a different story. With Fields, she was able to assist Bond at the party, but her role in the story was just as necessary as Honey's in DN: assist Bond in whatever way she can, including sex.

These three girls are no where near the bottom of my list.

If you remove Fields, then it makes no differene whatsoever to Bonds mission. So she tripped Elvis up on the stars, what seems like her sole purpose in the film. Bond could have done that himself.

Fields was the obligatory eye candy. I suppose we're going to get our eyes checked as she's really not much to look at. Rather bland in fact. As Taffer said if you take her out of the movie, the story is not affected. Serves no purpose whatsoever. A trait in the Craig films, or characters who don't really do anything. Kratt and Elvis spring to mind.

Indeed, Chang. I recall a review of Casino Royale where the reviewer said that (I don't remember exactly the words used, but it was along the lines of) one of the bad points about the film was that surplus characters just come and go. You can extend that to Fields.

FieldsMan wrote:

Yes, Bond girls are sex objects, but Bond girls in your list such as Naomi, Manuela, Jill and Kissy for example all did assist Bond, much like Honey did in DN, much like Fields did in QOS. They all maintained a semblence of resourcefulness (though the extent varied from girl to girl), except for Goodnight, Rosie Carver and Tiffany towards the end of DAF. Characters like Jill, Sylvia and Fields also had a wit that demonstrated they weren't unintelligent.

Apart from Honey Ryder and Sylvia Trench, their "resourcefulness" was pretty much being a pretty tourguide who served as a piece of ass for Bond and eye candy for the audience. And wit? Saying "not too early!", "and for being seen with him", "i dont know who you are" and "I'm so sorry" is hardly great wit.

As much as I enjoy Bond girls and the light tone of the films, to say they were mostly respectful interpreations of the ladies talents is a load of tosh.

So I looked at Naomie Harris' filmography noticed that she was credited on a TV show in the 90s called THE TOMORROW PEOPLE. I actually grew up watching that show on Nickelodeon and it was one of my favorites. I have not seen her in anything else since then. I just think it's pretty neat that I knew of this girl before I even knew of Bond flicks way back when. Also if she is cast as the new Bond girl that adds another connection into the long list of Bond connections as Christopher Lee made several guest appearances on the show while she was part of the cast.

Makeshift Python wrote:

So I looked at Naomie Harris' filmography noticed that she was credited on a TV show in the 90s called THE TOMORROW PEOPLE. I actually grew up watching that show on Nickelodeon and it was one of my favorites. I have not seen her in anything else since then. I just think it's pretty neat that I knew of this girl before I even knew of Bond flicks way back when. Also if she is cast as the new Bond girl that adds another connection into the long list of Bond connections as Christopher Lee made several guest appearances on the show while she was part of the cast.

I'm only familiar with Ninja Assassin...she didn't get naked in that one either but she did dig a guy who could do fancy things with japanese weopons.

There is an ugly rumour sufacing that Harris could be playing Moneypenny in the next Bond film, and not appearing as a Bond girl as such.

A blonde Bond, a black Felix Leiter, a black Moneypenny and a female M.

I wonder what Fleming would make of all this....

It may be more than just a rumor, jsw. Babs has control of the ship and she's run absolutely amok. I fear B23 will be a catastrophe, and perhaps the last Bond film I will see.

Ed Tom Kowalsky wrote:

It may be more than just a rumor, jsw. Babs has control of the ship and she's run absolutely amok. I fear B23 will be a catastrophe, and perhaps the last Bond film I will see.

I am very optimistic as absolutely nothing could be worse than QoS in the lame pc department.
The franchise can only go up - one would hope at least.

tiffanywint wrote:

Ed Tom Kowalsky wrote:

It may be more than just a rumor, jsw. Babs has control of the ship and she's run absolutely amok. I fear B23 will be a catastrophe, and perhaps the last Bond film I will see.

I am very optimistic as absolutely nothing could be worse than QoS in the lame pc department.
The franchise can only go up - one would hope at least.

Actually, having now learned of Bab's nutso casting of Naomie Harris as MP, I also fear B23 will be a disaster of epic proportions.
Babs latest pc-minion Mendes will be given carte blanche. He may out-do even the Haggfish.
The end indeed may be nigh.
Babs is determined to do what none of Blofeld, Goldfinger, No and others have managed to do.

Destroy James Bond :affraid:

Will the posts of this ilk ever end?