Bond 23 Press Conference

Lazenby. wrote:

Fuck me, that conference was my worst fucking nightmare x1000, right up there with being sodomised by a horde of disease-infested chimps then having some bastard stick a video of it on YouTube.

They'll be CGI chimps.

The White Tuxedo wrote:

Lazenby. wrote:

Fuck me, that conference was my worst fucking nightmare x1000, right up there with being sodomised by a horde of disease-infested chimps then having some bastard stick a video of it on YouTube.

They'll be CGI chimps.

With blue penises.

Lazenby. wrote:

Fuck me, that conference was my worst fucking nightmare x1000, right up there with being sodomised by a horde of disease-infested chimps then having some bastard stick a video of it on YouTube.

Whooah. That shakes things up There was this item though in the presser which might confirm the worst nightmares of some of us.

MGW said that with CR, Bond started down a "path" and we are going to continue that. He described the path as a "well written story and a great cast with action." Make of that, what you will. Hopefully he meant, an attempt at a well-written story, in reference to QoS. Personally that path still scares the crap out of me.

If I was there, I would have asked, will the movie be polluted with anti-American sentiment and leftist politics again. Why doesn't anyone ask the questions I want to know the answers to, so I can start bitching early. But there is no Haggis this time around, so maybe we will be spared. Actually I saw Haggis' last film, ( the one with Russel Crowe) and I didn't need a barf bag, so there is that. So if the haggfish himself can clean up his act, maybe the Bond franchise will be safe.

Much relieved to see that Harris is not playing MP. But its early yet. "She" may yet be cast as a gay male .

Marlohe sounds just like Olga. They could go clubbing together. Gal pals. They are both of the French cinema. Their combined weight I don't think would top 200 lbs. Hope Babs has lots of celery and carrot sticks for Bernie to munch on.

Some good plot analysis in this thread from various members. Yes Skyfall may very well be the name of "the Scottish Castle". Craig did say the title was very key and that it has a geographical connection to the film. Mendes said the same thing. Babs naturally focused on its emotional connotations. She's so sensitive.

If there was ever any doubt; Babs does want sex with Craig, and with Mendes too by the looks of it. Both will have their work cut out, keeping her at bay.

Interesting. No Quantum connection. No Fleming connection either, but really what Fleming connection did QoS have, other than a title and some dependable characters.

And yes it does seem that DC will be back for at least a B24, unless this one bombs, which isn't likely, unless the film really does suck like DreamHouse ( which I personally did like, but I enjoy a lot of bad films), but again its not likely. Babs won't admit it, but they've be gotta be pining for Oscar, with Mendes, Bardem, Fiennes, Finney and Dench all in the same film.

Two biggest schockers of the press conference:

1. No Quantum connection at all 2. That Harris is not MP

I don't think many of us were betting against either.

Biggest non-surprises, that might still have been somewhat in doubt. The title and Marlohe as lead Bond girl. I think the tabloids were pretty convincing when they dug out those stories.

So the big three for B23 appear to be Craig, Bardem as villain and Berenice Marlohe as Bond-girl Severin, described as glamorous and enigmatic by BM herself.

Harris' Eve sounds like a real action girl, "stunt driving, machine-gun play, jumping in and out of cars,"

Marlohe even says she picks up a gun, but it sounded more like Tiffany Case on the DAF oil rig.

tiffanywint wrote:

MGW said that with CR, Bond started down a "path"

MGW should have listened to Yoda.

Babs wrote:

Emotional complexity

She's got to be stopped. Fucking seriously. That wasn't a press conference for a Bond film. Crassly-written daytime soap opera mixed awkwardly with CGI action scenes is what this is heading towards, because the main c*nts behind TWINE are still somehow employed on this.

Wouldn't mind giving Babs some AAAAANNGAAAHHH, because this series needs some bloody FOCUS. This luvvie sh*te is never what Bond was about.

Classic avatar, Laz.

tiffanywint wrote:

If there was ever any doubt; Babs does want sex with Craig.

As always, you say what everyone else thinks. ;)

Great avatar, Laz. Ah, for the good old days when there wasn't a big fuss about M's genitalia... Because they were hidded behind a friggin' desk!

Seems the producers don't see things that way anymore. As they said, they're making these films for audiences, not for Fleming fans who just want good old fashioned adventures aimed at warm blooded males. Since this has especially been most present since the start of the Craig era I suppose it's what we should expect in his next film too. As long as audiences eat em up the producers feel content with continuing the trend.

But hey, there's always Tiffany's reaction shot: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws1fvTFaaMg#t=45s

Anything with a "007" label is practically bound to make big bucks. I don't think your average moviegoer forks over cash to see a Bond movie expecting some kind of deep, psychobabble-laden foray into Bond's inner demons. I genuinely believe a Bond film of the "mindles fun" variety could rake in tonnes of money, even in this day and age. Babs and her acolytes probably know this, but for them Bond is merely a convenient avenue to tow the trendy line and chuck in a social message or two.

I'm enthusiastic about Bond 23. Yes, I'm still a bit skeptical, but hey, I'm sure I'll enjoy it. As a poster mentioned previously, no - a google search on Berenice doesn't do her justice, but if she looks akin to how she looked at the conference, well she may be up there with the best of them in terms of looks. She was bloody hot. I am exceedingly elated that Harris isn't playing Moneypenny. Thank ****. I can cope with her as a Bond girl. The new hair cut looks good on her, but I'm not liking the sound of her character. I like the sound of Severin's. She may be like Domino, you know. She fired the cross bow... Perhaps she'll be doing similar things.

Now, with the story proposed by Dr. Strangelove (I think it was), perhaps Helen McCrory will join the cast and act as M during the Cold War. Flashback scenes, perhaps?

CJB wrote:

Anything with a "007" label is practically bound to make big bucks. I don't think your average moviegoer forks over cash to see a Bond movie expecting some kind of deep, psychobabble-laden foray into Bond's inner demons. I genuinely believe a Bond film of the "mindles fun" variety could rake in tonnes of money, even in this day and age. Babs and her acolytes probably know this, but for them Bond is merely a convenient avenue to tow the trendy line and chuck in a social message or two.

That's why the always add in the splosions and Craig's superhero strength to compensate.

"Wait, why is this scene so dialogue heavy? What's with all the oscar drama? Oh hey, machine gun fire! PEW PEW PEW!!"

CJB wrote:

Anything with a "007" label is practically bound to make big bucks. I don't think your average moviegoer forks over cash to see a Bond movie expecting some kind of deep, psychobabble-laden foray into Bond's inner demons. I genuinely believe a Bond film of the "mindles fun" variety could rake in tonnes of money, even in this day and age. Babs and her acolytes probably know this, but for them Bond is merely a convenient avenue to tow the trendy line and chuck in a social message or two.

Whether people here like it or not, Casino Royale was a resounding success for them financially and critically (moreso than any other film in the Babs/Mick regime), so I'd say they're going to repeat that ad nauseum until it doesn't work at least financially.

And their idea of "mindless fun" is TND or DAD, so I wouldn't trust them with pulling that off either.

FieldsMan wrote:

I'm enthusiastic about Bond 23.

But yeah, it sounds at least semi-intriguing. It's too far off for me to be amped about, and there are far too many interesting (and "interesting") films coming out between now and then to pay attention to, but there's more to chew on than the QoS announcement, where the only points of interest were the Forster hiring and the fact that it would be a direct sequel.

This article is interesting in that it sheds some light on Finney's role. (if this spec is true that is)

"Finney, 75, will play a high ranking intelligence official, with powers that the Mail speculates include supervisory duties over M, played by Dench."

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/1101/finneya.html

CJB wrote:

Anything with a "007" label is practically bound to make big bucks. I don't think your average moviegoer forks over cash to see a Bond movie expecting some kind of deep, psychobabble-laden foray into Bond's inner demons. I genuinely believe a Bond film of the "mindles fun" variety could rake in tonnes of money, even in this day and age. Babs and her acolytes probably know this, but for them Bond is merely a convenient avenue to tow the trendy line and chuck in a social message or two.

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here. Face it FFS all you miserable old farts (and that includes me as much as the next guy), the series is making tons of money without the necessity of the fans agreeing or not. The most disturbing psychobabble is our continued wailing about this simple fact, like it or not. I've come to the conclusion that's pointless so I won't bitch about it any more.

Kennon wrote:

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here. .

Never said anything to that effect Indeed, I said the James Bond brand is so potent that it could make a killing irrespective of whether they dump a bucket of "grittiness" and "emotional complexity" onto it or not.

Kennon wrote:

CJB wrote:

Anything with a "007" label is practically bound to make big bucks. I don't think your average moviegoer forks over cash to see a Bond movie expecting some kind of deep, psychobabble-laden foray into Bond's inner demons. I genuinely believe a Bond film of the "mindles fun" variety could rake in tonnes of money, even in this day and age. Babs and her acolytes probably know this, but for them Bond is merely a convenient avenue to tow the trendy line and chuck in a social message or two.

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here. Face it FFS all you miserable old farts (and that includes me as much as the next guy), the series is making tons of money without the necessity of the fans agreeing or not. The most disturbing psychobabble is our continued wailing about this simple fact, like it or not. I've come to the conclusion that's pointless so I won't bitch about it any more.

But that bitching is half the fun about being a fan, don't you see that? Peddling rumours and conspiracy theories about the series' infiltration by 'communists', 'leftists' and 'liberals' or - by far the worst - 'thinking human beings' is the daily routine of the Bond fan. Some revel in slander and their own repressed gayness, some never will forgive the casting of Moore or the sacking of Brosnan or vice versa or both or a million other sins Eon comitted against the holy word of the master.

Seriously, get a grip. It's enormously entertaining and funny once you accept a given degree of funniness and amusement. And it keeps most of the resident alcoholics from drinking beyond their typing abilities, lest they couldn't continue to amuse us and each other.

CJB wrote:

Kennon wrote:

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here. .

Never said anything to that effect Indeed, I said the James Bond brand is so potent that it could make a killing irrespective of whether they dump a bucket of "grittiness" and "emotional complexity" onto it or not.

Well, that's more a general feeling I got, not specifically your post, sorry.

Kennon wrote:

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here.

Barbara seemed interested and involved, but there was clear body language from Michael Wilson that he's bored and/or simply too old for this.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Kennon wrote:

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here.

Barbara seemed interested and involved, but there was clear body language from Michael Wilson that he's bored and/or simply too old for this.

He was looking old, frail almost but then I have to say Daniel Criag wasn't looking in the best of health either...bad make up, no make up or did the celebrations begin too early ^^

lachesis wrote:

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Kennon wrote:

Sure, Babs and MGW are hell bound on running their own business into the next wall, just to spite all those "fans" around here.

Barbara seemed interested and involved, but there was clear body language from Michael Wilson that he's bored and/or simply too old for this.

He was looking old, frail almost but then I have to say Daniel Criag wasn't looking in the best of health either...bad make up, no make up or did the celebrations begin too early ^^

Agreed that they weren't looking their best, but make-up can't hide his disinterest. I watched him a number of times tuck his fist under his chin and just sort of zone out...his gaze sort of wandered aimlessly. Maybe it's just become old-hat to do these sort of things for him and that's why he seemed disconnected. On the other hand, his lack of enthusiasm was in stark contrast to Sam Mendes, who seemed genuinely excited to be doing this film. Maybe Mendes needs to sign on as exec producer for all the future Bond films (if SF is any good) and let Michael do the honorable thing and retire before he produces any more Quanturds of Solace.

Maybe Michael feels the ghost of Cubby.

Or as you say just can't be bothered.

FourDot wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

I'm enthusiastic about Bond 23.

Lmao.

6of1 wrote:

But that bitching is half the fun about being a fan, don't you see that? Peddling rumours and conspiracy theories about the series' infiltration by 'communists', 'leftists' and 'liberals' or - by far the worst - 'thinking human beings' is the daily routine of the Bond fan. Some revel in slander and their own repressed gayness, some never will forgive the casting of Moore or the sacking of Brosnan or vice versa or both or a million other sins Eon comitted against the holy word of the master.

Seriously, get a grip. It's enormously entertaining and funny once you accept a given degree of funniness and amusement. And it keeps most of the resident alcoholics from drinking beyond their typing abilities, lest they couldn't continue to amuse us and each other.

You seem pretty bitter. =/

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Agreed that they weren't looking their best, but make-up can't hide his disinterest. I watched him a number of times tuck his fist under his chin and just sort of zone out...his gaze sort of wandered aimlessly. Maybe it's just become old-hat to do these sort of things for him and that's why he seemed disconnected. On the other hand, his lack of enthusiasm was in stark contrast to Sam Mendes, who seemed genuinely excited to be doing this film. Maybe Mendes needs to sign on as exec producer for all the future Bond films (if SF is any good) and let Michael do the honorable thing and retire before he produces any more Quanturds of Solace.

MGW seemed to be putting up a brave front and touting the party line. Babs and Mendes on the other hand seemed postively giddy. When Craig was asked about his future, he looked to Babs. Both Craig and Mendes seem to defer to Babs as the boss chick. And MGW when asked about the direction of the films or something to that effect, did make it very clear that a new "path" was charted with CR and that they will continue on that path. He seems resigned to the path, while Babs is positively singing and skipping along the "path" with her new best friend Mendes.

Its the Babs era of Bond. Enjoy! There will be fingersucking, trust issues etc And its not going away anytime soon.

====We may not have dodged Harris as MP yet. There is chatter in the Daily Mail that Agent Eve is MP's origins story....that she's a field agent who becomes MP.

More likely its all crap. Hopefully she's just Agent Eve.

Someone mentioned Fiennes as Blofeld, but Fiennes has described his character as complex. Is Blofeld complex? Could be I guess. Fiennes also says his character "doesn't get laid, that's for sure." I wonder why the emphasis on "thats for sure?" Is his character simply not a sexual beast? Does Blofeld have sex? He sure liked Tracy in OHMSS, and sexually-ambigouous Blofeld sure liked Tiffany's cheeks in DAF. Hmmm

Could Fiennes be the new M succeeding Dench-M? Does M have sex? Male M's don't it seems. Female M's do though, and they put on cold cream too, just before they hit the sack.

Fiennes inclusion, btw makes for both of the screen's John Steeds to have featured in a Bond film. Very nice.

tiffanywint wrote:

Its the Babs era of Bond. Enjoy! There will be fingersucking, trust issues etc And its not going away anytime soon.

====We may not have dodged Harris as MP yet. There is chatter in the Daily Mail that Agent Eve is MP's origins story....that she's a field agent who becomes MP.

More likely its all crap. Hopefully she's just Agent Eve.

I linked to that story about Eve/Moneypenny in the "Bardem, Fiennes, Harris reportedly confirmed for 'Bond 23'" thread earlier in the day. I absolutely believe it to be true. Have we ever known Moneypenny's full name, even in the books?

If this had been the Roger Moore era the agent would have been named Eve Summers.

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Could Fiennes be the new M succeeding Dench-M? Does M have sex? Male M's don't it seems. Female M's do though, and they put on cold cream too, just before they hit the sack.

Honestly, at this point I'd prefer a much younger M to replace Dench. I think the idea of a 30ish/40ish M....a character younger than Bond, without the field experience, but pushing Bond around, might be more interesting than another older actor taking the role, and I'm not sure Finney is the way to go (if they're thinking of using him to replace Dench).