The Issue of Racism in America

Perilagu Khan wrote:

That is all rooted in a legal sophistry known as "disparate impact," which means that any mechanism producing unequal results along race or sex lines, even if there is no malign intent whatwoever, is illegal..

"There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal." - F.A. Hayek

Prince Kamal Khan wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

That is all rooted in a legal sophistry known as "disparate impact," which means that any mechanism producing unequal results along race or sex lines, even if there is no malign intent whatwoever, is illegal..

"There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal." - F.A. Hayek

Unfortunately Obama is unable to understand this. He is the great utopian progressive social engineer. America will be screwed royally if he is re-elected, as he won't have to worry about being popular anymore. He can plough right ahead with his mad schemes. Congress at least might be able to keep the brakes on him for four years. Obama though is truly a nightmare scenario. The USA has never seen a more statist leader, and with such contempt for the constitution. Even another Democrat wouldn't be attempting to re-shape the great Republic the way Obama wants to. They would simply battle Republicans over spending, taxes, the role of government etc. The usual stuff. Obama though, spurred on by the collection of socialist and marxist mentors he has gathered along the way, basically wants to re-draw the social contract and re-envision America.

He is absolutely deranged. Open wide,Obama will be shoving "equality" right down your throat.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/24/police-racially-charged-assault-not-probed-as-hate-crime-despite-witness-claim/

I don't know for certain this was a "hate" crime, but I somehow doubt the black mob would have decended upon this guy if he had been black. The reality is that blacks, sensing that they are calling the shots in America, are using violence and intimidation to impose their cultural norms upon everybody else. Have problems with blacks blocking roads with their basketball games, blasting their rap at all hours, trashing their yards, wearing hoodies and pants down around their knees? Well if you do, you'd better not say anything or you might just die.

There very much seems to be an uptick, even a borderline epidemic of black mobs attacking non-blacks. Lynchings, if you will. But is the media interested in this phenomenon? Of course not. It contravenes their template for race in America. They would much rather make the trial of the century out of an iffy case in Sanford, Florida. There have been many acts of violence more overtly racial than Zimmerman/Martin, but if the "victim" isn't black, it just isn't news. And thus we see the danger of a single ideology monopolizing the media.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/24/police-racially-charged-assault-not-probed-as-hate-crime-despite-witness-claim/

I don't know for certain this was a "hate" crime, but I somehow doubt the black mob would have decended upon this guy if he had been black. The reality is that blacks, sensing that they are calling the shots in America, are using violence and intimidation to impose their cultural norms upon everybody else. Have problems with blacks blocking roads with their basketball games, blasting their rap at all hours, trashing their yards, wearing hoodies and pants down around their knees? Well if you do, you'd better not say anything or you might just die.

There very much seems to be an uptick, even a borderline epidemic of black mobs attacking non-blacks. Lynchings, if you will. But is the media interested in this phenomenon? Of course not. It contravenes their template for race in America. They would much rather make the trial of the century out of an iffy case in Sanford, Florida. There have been many acts of violence more overtly racial than Zimmerman/Martin, but if the "victim" isn't black, it just isn't news. And thus we see the danger of a single ideology monopolizing the media.

As Ops suggested earlier with one of her links, hate-crimes really don't seem to count as hate-crimes, unless they are perpetrated by whites. Very convenient for the liberal social engineers.

I have decided that as of today I am a racist. I am racist against white liberals. They cause the most problems in society.

I am going out now to give one a wedgie. I plead guilty of "hate" crime in advance, or at least of "you are a public nuisance," crime in advance.

tiffanywint wrote:

Prince Kamal Khan wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

That is all rooted in a legal sophistry known as "disparate impact," which means that any mechanism producing unequal results along race or sex lines, even if there is no malign intent whatwoever, is illegal..

"There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal." - F.A. Hayek

Unfortunately Obama is unable to understand this. He is the great utopian progressive social engineer. America will be screwed royally if he is re-elected, as he won't have to worry about being popular anymore. He can plough right ahead with his mad schemes. Congress at least might be able to keep the brakes on him for four years. Obama though is truly a nightmare scenario. The USA has never seen a more statist leader, and with such contempt for the constitution. Even another Democrat wouldn't be attempting to re-shape the great Republic the way Obama wants to. They would simply battle Republicans over spending, taxes, the role of government etc. The usual stuff. Obama though, spurred on by the collection of socialist and marxist mentors he has gathered along the way, basically wants to re-draw the social contract and re-envision America.

He is absolutely deranged. Open wide,Obama will be shoving "equality" right down your throat.

Remember, timmer. In the mind of the left, the state is man's "liberator":

"Each citizen would then be completely independent of all his fellow men and absolutely dependent on the state."- Jean-Jacques Rousseau

First Hayek and now Rousseau...man, PKK, you've been going to finishing school!

tiffanywint wrote:

I have decided that as of today I am a racist. I am racist against white liberals. They cause the most problems in society.

Yes, white liberals are certainly an issue. But to the more broader point....I have found that yes, I am indeed a racist. I've been marginalized and pushed to the edges by the Democrats and Liberals in society that thinks I'm racist to hold black people accountable to the same standards I hold my white employees accountable. That being in jail for a couple of days is NOT a reasonable excuse for why you were not at your job somehow makes me a racist. I'm a racist because I didn't vote for Obama, I don't agree with Obama and want to see his healthcare plan repealed and found unconstitutional (Was I a racist towards Hillary Clinton in 1993 when I opposed her insurance overhaul plans?)

So, at this point, I accept the label "Racist!" and will wear it pride. I no longer feel the need to defend what should be clear and obvious to anyone with a free-thinking mind.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

First Hayek and now Rousseau...man, PKK, you've been going to finishing school!

A learned man indeed.

Although I am somewhat tolerant of Rousseau. He was a great philospher, composer, novelist, a truly inedpendent and brilliant thinker, with honest political beliefs. He was no Utopian.

Much of his ramblings were spurred from his belief that monarchs were not divinely empowered to legislate.

In his Discourse on Political Economy, Rousseau emphasizes that the general will exists to protect individuals against the mass, not to require them to be sacrificed to it. He is, of course, sharply aware that men have selfish and sectional interests which will lead them to try to oppress others. He does IMO wander dangerously into collectivist discourse, but it strikes me more as thinking out loud, of trying to get everything on the table, and to truly find a model for representative government, in which the powerful did not oppress the weak. No small feat that was, for his time. I think his ideas were unfinished.He was looking to develop an alternative form of government to oppressive monarchy. But he was probably ahead of his time, at least in France. His work needed polishing and further development, but unfortunately, as he was so damn brilliant, the cult that grew up around him after his death, and particularly the radicalized versions of Rousseau's ideas that were adopted by the fanatic Robespierre and others during the Reign of Terror, caused him to become identified with the most extreme aspects of the French Revolution.

The TV show Lost, created a Rousseau character. She was quite interesting, in her representation of her namesake, as was the John Locke character and others. Lost is probably the smartest tv show ever made.

Rousseau, I believe was at least coming from a good place, unlike say barbarians such as Marx and Engels, who had no qualms about oppressing individual liberties with their statist, collectivist, totalitarian views.

But the quote that PKK attributed to the good Rousseau is not flattering. It's rather ominous. It may need some context, but I don't know. I do note though, that the framers of the U.S. constitution drew much inspiration from the likes of Locke and Montesquieu, and not so much from Rousseau.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Yes, white liberals are certainly an issue. But to the more broader point....I have found that yes, I am indeed a racist. I've been marginalized and pushed to the edges by the Democrats and Liberals in society that thinks I'm racist to hold black people accountable to the same standards I hold my white employees accountable. That being in jail for a couple of days is NOT a reasonable excuse for why you were not at your job somehow makes me a racist. I'm a racist because I didn't vote for Obama, I don't agree with Obama and want to see his healthcare plan repealed and found unconstitutional (Was I a racist towards Hillary Clinton in 1993 when I opposed her insurance overhaul plans?)

So, at this point, I accept the label "Racist!" and will wear it pride. I no longer feel the need to defend what should be clear and obvious to anyone with a free-thinking mind.

Being a racist as defined by a liberal though, isn't the worst thing to be.

Dreadlocks says the solution to his problems and the survival of the black man is to exterminate white people.



Defended by an organisation that I utterly despise....some new Black Panther movement....who doesn't seem to understand simple English when interviewed by the reporter.



You ask these nasty, recalcitrant radicals why no African country has produced an operating system that makes Windows obsolete, or has made advances in nanotechnology, space-exploration or has cured AIDS, or is the next world super-power where economics is concerned....and they will simply accuse you of not liking black people. You ask them why they hate Zimmerman but did nothing when 500,000 Rwandans were butchered by other blacks, and they froth at the mouth and declare you the enemy. Why don't they go to Zimbabwe and see if Robert Mugabe will welcome them with open arms, or his wife with her open legs, instead of basing all their operations in the infidel USA where whites monopolise the power structure they so crave?

I told that to my afro-centric colleague who accuses me of not liking black men because I never dated one....well I might as well have kicked him in his balls, he is still complaining in emails....but can't do without me cuz I get him his fix of comic books.....

Make sure you've got armaments and ammo. There may well come a day that you'll need them. I'm afraid we're approaching the day where the power structure will cease protecting non-blacks from blacks, and as the latter realize this, they'll come calling. Even in your neighborhood.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Have problems with blacks blocking roads with their basketball games, blasting their rap at all hours, trashing their yards, wearing hoodies and pants down around their knees? Well if you do, you'd better not say anything or you might just die.

Plenty of white people do that, too, FWIW.

"This man is a professor, this man has studied the world over and over again... he's findin' across the world that white people, everywhere they show up, they exterminating people... everywhere they go."

Brilliant.

I don't think race or ethnicity or any other such superficial distinctions need divide society. All groups have their ethno-cultural issues.

No, the big problem is priviliged white liberals. Actually liberals in general but it's the wealthy entitled ones that wreak the most havoc, and they tend to be preponderantly white. They preach the politics of division. The politics of multi-culturalism, affirmative action etc, which only serve to divide, segregate and drag people down into a culture of dependancy. And they execute their mad social-engineering schemes, from their power-bases of big government, public service, liberal-media ( preferably public-broadcasters) the universities, and anywhere, they can operate on the public dime. They are oh-so progressive and tolerant. Makes them feel superior. They sleep well at night, in their comfy beds.

Meanwhile I am sensing a backlash. The sainted leader of Canada's national progressive Party died prematurely last year of illness. My God, the public outpouring from the chattering classes. Sanctimony City. You'd think he was deity. But most telling, at his public memorial service - - a sea of privileged white faces. Not a speck of colour to be seen anywhere. Embarrassing.

Immigrants tend to be hard-working people. They are not looking to be pandered too and enslaved by liberal social-welfare schemes. These people, once they settle in, are voting conservative. They want equality of opportunity, not affirmative action.

I think the problem with us whites and blacks is that we have been here too long. We've become too comfortable with the nanny-state and liberal social engineering. We've lost touch with traditional values such as family, which new immigrants embrace.

If there is a problem in the black community with rampant single-mother families and resultant welfare and gang culture, as many black leaders seem to believe, including the Reverand Manning linked above, than that needs to be dealt with. Black leaders have to sort it out.

Meanwhile, as a member of North American whitebread-culture, I am working to deal with our entitled-liberal problem, which I am pretty sure is imported direct from Planet Pluto. The progressive mindset is so destructive to broader society, that it has to be from outer space. We wouldn't do this to ourselves.

Obama is a priviliged white-liberal btw. He is part of the problem. Not the solution.

Vive le brave Earth resistance! Non to Pluto!

Mr. Brown wrote:

"This man is a professor, this man has studied the world over and over again... he's findin' across the world that white people, everywhere they show up, they exterminating people... everywhere they go."

Brilliant.

Just a cruder, less literate version of Susan Sontag's claim that "white people are the cancer of the human race."

No, but if anybody comes up with a cure for cancer, chances are it'll be whitey.

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^I like the way the good Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson schooled the prissy white-liberal Colmes.

"He's representative of most racist-blacks" says Peterson.

I thought Colmes was going to pee himself.

"That's not politically correct. How you can say that?"

I tell you, white-liberals are the problem. They won't deal with reality. They are far too impressed with their own smug superiority. They like to tell black people, what to be outraged about, how to be outraged,yadda yadda yadda.

Colmes was schooled and he's too dense to know it. You can see the Reverend preferred to be talking to Hannity.

I don't really care much for this Senate race because it is in Massachushetts and I live in Georgia, but I couldn't help but laugh at the explanation the Democratic candidate, Elizabeth Warren, is offering for statements she has made saying she was of Native American heritage: 'I have high cheekbones like all Indians do."

If you watch the video clip of her trying to dig herself out of this hole, you almost feel sorry for her. She honestly never expected anyone to call her out on this bullshiz. And she clearly used the race-card in order to get preferential treatment:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/warren-my-grandfather-had-high-cheekbones-all-indians-do_643103.html

Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, fending off questions about whether she used her Native American heritage to advance her career, said today she enrolled herself as a minority in law school directories for nearly a decade because she hoped to meet other people with tribal roots.

“I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened, that was clearly not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off,” said Warren.

Warren is looking to shake off the story of her Native American background, which has hounded her since the Herald first reported that Harvard Law School has touted Warren as a minority hire. She also listed herself as a minority in a law school directory for nine years between 1986 and 1995.

“Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born,” said Warren, who never mentioned her Native American heritage on the campaign trail even as she detailed much of her personal history to voters in speeches, statements and a video. “These are my family stories, I have lived in a family that has talked about Native American and talked about tribes since I was a little girl.”

Warren’s statements come as genealogists at the New England Historic Genealogical Society were unable to back up earlier accounts that her great great great grandmother is Cherokee. While Warren’s great great great grandmother, named O.C. Sarah Smith, is listed on a electronic transcript of a 1894 marriage application as Cherokee, the genealogists are unable to find the actual record or a photograhic copy of it, Society spokesman Tom Champoux said. A copy of the marriage license itself has been located, but unlike the application, it does not list Smith’s ethnicity.

So basically, if your family ever discussed something to do with Indians, I guess that makes you a full-blooded American Arapaho, or Cherokee Indian. I've discussed the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese with my family before, therefore I must be Japanese.

Man, I could have been riding the "affirmative" action gravy train all this time. I don't have to go all the way back to my great, great, great grandmother to find Cherokee blood. My paternal grandma was half Cherokee and I'm related to Pocohantas (sp?) on my mom's side. Is it too late to claim my due as an oppressed minority?

Popchips Pulls Ashton Kutcher Ad Over Charges of Racism

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/popchips-pulls-ashton-kutcher-ad-over-charges-of-racism/

I found the commercial and watched it; curiously, Popchips had no problem stereotyping southerners as uneducated, illiterate rednecks in the same ad. I guess poor, white southerners are hiiiilarious.

I think the "stoner" persona in the video was meant to be a bi-racial Rastafarian, and looked like it might have been modeled after Lenny Kravitz, but I can't say for certain.

What I really want to know is: how many sex slaves (other than Demi) has Ashton managed to set free? He pledged to free 1 million people from human bondage in 5 years, and that was back in 2008. So, if he is on pace, he should have freed up nearly 800,000 sex workers, whores, and slaves.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Man, I could have been riding the "affirmative" action gravy train all this time. I don't have to go all the way back to my great, great, great grandmother to find Cherokee blood. My paternal grandma was half Cherokee and I'm related to Pocohantas (sp?) on my mom's side. Is it too late to claim my due as an oppressed minority?

I caught a few minutes of Rush Limbaugh today and he mentioned the story, stating that Warren is essentially laying claim to being 1/32nd Cherokee Indian because her great-great-great-grandmother ***MAY*** have been all, or partly, Cherokee Indian. I mean, big deal! I think if there is any case to be made *FOR* having ethnic pride, you should at least resemble the race or ethnicity of the people you are claiming to be part of.

Insensitive comment about Indians at the 1:36 mark:

Maybe a snappier title for this thread would've been 'White Whine'.

Just a thought.

tiffanywint wrote:

No, the big problem is priviliged white liberals. Actually liberals in general but it's the wealthy entitled ones that wreak the most havoc, and they tend to be preponderantly white. They preach the politics of division. The politics of multi-culturalism, affirmative action etc, which only serve to divide, segregate and drag people down into a culture of dependancy. And they execute their mad social-engineering schemes, from their power-bases of big government, public service, liberal-media ( preferably public-broadcasters) the universities, and anywhere, they can operate on the public dime. They are oh-so progressive and tolerant. Makes them feel superior. They sleep well at night, in their comfy beds.

I've heard it all. I think you've blamed something on liberals in every thread in which you've posted.

We need to send some of those red-blooded conservatives with their lynchin' rope to stop these tolerant, pussy liberals.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/racism-fears-left-asian-gang-free-to-rape-girls-20120509-1ycfu.html

Quote :

Racism fears 'left Asian gang free to rape girls'

Police and social workers in England have been accused of failing to investigate a South Asian paedophile gang for fear of being perceived as racist, leaving the men free to prey on up to 50 white girls.

Nine men from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, were convicted of abusing five vulnerable teenagers after plying them with alcohol and small sums of money.

The true number of victims who were "passed around" by the gang was likely to have been nearer 50, police said.

Greater Manchester Police and the Crown Prosecution Service apologised after they failed to bring the case of the first victim, known as Girl A, to trial following her initial cry for help in August 2008.

One 13-year-old victim became pregnant and had the child aborted while another was raped by 20 men in one night, Liverpool Crown Court heard. Complaints to social workers and the police were ignored because they were "petrified of being called racist", Ann Cryer, the former Labour MP for Keighley, said.

Mrs Cryer, who has campaigned to bring the issue of Asian sex gangs to light, said the girls had been "betrayed" and condemned to "untold misery" by the police and social services.

"This is an absolute scandal. They were petrified of being called racist and so reverted to the default of political correctness," she said. "They had a greater fear of being perceived in that light than in dealing with the issues in front of them."

CONTINUED...

I hope China does a better job of running the world, because the West just fucking sucks.

Amen to that, CJB. Not "just fucking sucks," but just fucking nuts as well. But this sort of thing is predictable when racial McCarthyism is the modus operandi of the Western elite and the rest of us sit around with our thumbs up our asses, also cowering before the specter of so-called "racism."

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Amen to that, CJB. Not "just fucking sucks," but just fucking nuts as well. But this sort of thing is predictable when racial McCarthyism is the modus operandi of the Western elite and the rest of us sit around with our thumbs up our asses, also cowering before the specter of so-called "racism."

Someone the other day suggested this thread be called "White Whine", but what it's really about is some form of bizarre, irrational fear that white people have of being labelled "raaaaaaaaaacist". It's gotten to the point where Western, white society has abandoned all forms of logic and reason in order to be politically correct.