Reletively predictable results so far but at least GF or CR are not winning, so far GE is comfortably in the lead, followed by (you guessed it) GF. Hopefully, Play.com may change their minds and decide to release more than one Bond blu-ray in steel-book form.
Control 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:49 pm
That's good. I only want to own a few of them.
I just sold all of my Bond DVDs, except for DIE ANOTHER DAY, CASINO ROYALE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE. They'll be hard to get rid of.
They may end up being fancy coasters.
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:41 pm
Why is that?
Do you only like a few of them?
If so, which ones?
Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:42 pm
The good ones.
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:54 am
I currently own all of the 'Ultimate Edition' DVDs as well as the original releases for DAD and QOS and the 3-disc 'Collectors Edition 'of CR and am under the impression that the new blu-rays are more-or-less clones of the UEs except that they are now in HD, also, that there is an additional bonus disc if you buy the box-set. I do not intend to update to the blu-rays until they become dirt cheap, or, by some miracle, tons more additional special features are found and put on the discs (full-length 'Whickers World' for YOLT, 'Open University' programmes for TSWLM, deleted scenes for GF and TWINE onwards, uncut versions of CR and QOS etc etc...). I will, however, be buying all future Bond films (SF onwards) on blu-ray, as well as whichever Bond film is steelbook-ed (most likely GE).
Makeshift Python 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:16 pm
Actually there are differences between the UE and blu-rays. For example the DTS audio mix is more faithful to the original mono mixes and the colors for the most part have been restored to what they originally looked like (the 2006 OHMSS DVD that had the awful filter in the PTS is absent in the HD transfer).
Here's the UE DVD next to the HD transfer.
And more examples:
UE DVD:
HD:
MBalje Q Branch
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:33 pm
It is kind of confirmd that on 24 October in The Netherlands there wil be 1 disc re-releases of Casino Royale and QOS on dvd and BD and a 2 disc combopack of both movies on dvd and BD. All of them released by 20th Century Fox. Source: Bol.com
Casino Royale 1 disc DVD 8712626099086 Casino Royale 1 disc BD 8712626099062 QOS 1 disc DVD 8712626099079 QOS 1 disc BD 8712626099055 Casino Royale/QOS 2 disc set (1 disc dvd + QOS 1 disc DVD) 8712626099031 Casino Royale/QOs 2 disc set (1 disc BD + QOS 1 disc BD) 8712626099024
The prices that store ask are € 12,99 for the solo DVD's, € 16,99 for the solo BD, € 16,99 for the 2 movies dvd set and € 19,99 for the 2 movies BD set.
20th Century Fox release the orginal QOS BD and 1 disc dvd in 2009 and there re-release the BD of QOS in 2010. So don't expect new things, i think we should expect there yusing the 2007 disc's of CR (Means the first disc of the 2 CE dvd and solo BD.). It is a bit strange that Fox don't give a wide re-release of the in my country only limited 2 disc DVD of QOS.
Keep in mind it is fresh news, so things can changed or the release can complete gone.
Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:50 pm
Balje, it's "use/using/used" - not "yuse/yusing/yused." ;)
hegottheboot Head of Station
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:52 pm
Python wrote:
Actually there are differences between the UE and blu-rays. For example the DTS audio mix is more faithful to the original mono mixes and the colors for the most part have been restored to what they originally looked like (the 2006 OHMSS DVD that had the awful filter in the PTS is absent in the HD transfer).
Here's the UE DVD next to the HD transfer.
And more examples:
UE DVD:
HD:
Where the heck did that come from? An HDTV cap? This is where you can easily see the tweaks that have been made in addition to the tweaks that were made in the process of taking the master files and putting them on the DVD in SD. Some horrible decisions were made there. Overall it looks better but there are still some issues, notable in those caps Laz's skin tone which has an almost purplish cast (akin to what happened with the TB Blu-ray) because they cannot replicate 1960's Technicolor. YOLT will be the big indicator because there is virtually no color at all on that UE. Has the audio in Gumbold's office and the incorrectly added cable car shot been fixed?
I don't know about the mix being more faithful, as each film had a new 5.1 track created with brand new elements, and inserted the score from the new soundtrack remasters to boot. The DTS-HDMA should be the master version of the Dolby/DTS we saw on the DVDs. (except TB and TSWLM which used pre-existing 5.1 mixes which are far superior due to not having added and changed effects) This must have cost quite a bit and is totally unnecessary. They should have paid for more films to be fully scanned at 4K in stead of just 10.
Here's a post I made on another forum which details my feelings on all the UE transfers as they stand so far in comparison to older discs (which all came from straight print scans):
Quote :
Here's the best source for direct comparisons between the UE transfers and the older SE DVDs which used the same master sources that MGM used on all their 90's era video releases. (FF, this is why that same stubborn hair in the gate under the Rack is in Thunderball from 1989 to 2002. Same recycled transfer but better pressings over time.)
You can also see screencaps form the original Region 2 editions which were released first and had issues that were corrected for the Region 1 discs. (Though hastily.)
Overall, I think that they nailed two or three of the films imagewise-those being Dimaonds are Forever, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker and Licence to Kill. DAF is quite close and looks stunning though some of the colors aren't quite 1971 vintage. TMWTGG is stellar though I don't see enough Technicolor. Moonraker is one of the best transfers I've ever seen and the colors are about 99% accurate. LTK is very very slightly different, but fantastic and is the only release that is fully uncut. (save for some rumored obscure foreign releases back in the early 90's)
Other verdicts: (those with * look better on old editions)
*Doctor No, *FRWL, *Goldfinger: had some amazing cleanup work done, but the color seems to be off and downright muted in most places.
*Thunderball: Clean but with wrong color all over the place. Needs a re-do.
*YOLT: Lacking color that showed off the sunny countryside of Japan. Missing all the deep yellow/brown/orange tint of the 1967 presentation. Re-do.
*OHMSS: Framing a bit shifted to the right, a very tiny shot was accidentally inserted in error, opening blue tinted, some audio errors, no 60's Technicolor look. Re-do.
LALD: The UE DVD was shorn of grain structure and very soft. Contrast boosted and not good looking at all. This has been corrected for the most part.
*TSWLM: All transfers don't look so hot. The film was shot with a lot of soft focus and diffusion which has never been replicated well. The UE removed the original color timing and was full of edge enhancement. Original audio was missing as well. Re-do.
FYEO: Great detail in the UE but some definite color manipulation. Overall great, but slightly different from original.
OP: Same here, great improvement in detail but slight color manipulation.
AVTAK: Looks fantastic, and like a print of the film almost. Color spot on if a bit tweaked. However, the opening teaser is horribly cropped, and you lose information to cropping on top, bottom and sides of the frame throughout. Without the cropping this would be close with MR's transfer.
TLD: Great transfer, very slight modifications to contrast and darkness levels but only to improve the image for home viewing. Great job.
GE: Different color timing which may or may not be Theatrical. Looks better on the whole. Has the cropping issue which has never been confirmed as an error. Audio is a remix from stems and lacks the huge bassy punch of the original.
Tomorrow Never Dies: gets some major improvement and actually looks like the theatrical presentation instead of video. Audio is a remix and quite good, but nowhere near the incredible theatrical mix. (One of the 5 or so best surround mixes I've heard.)
TWINE: Looks better overall, some contrast boosting, less grain, color may have been tweaked a little. Audio likely a remix as well and lacks the matrixed original 6.1 track. Framed to give a bit more on the top edge.
DAD: UE is better but lacks the original soundmix design of a matrixed 6.1 track.
These are my quick opinions and nitpicks for the most part. As I said 99.99% of people are going to be thrilled with the new set. And as a bonus all the new transfers have the original theatrical subtitles/location text and correct aspect ratios.
Another image comparison, though primarily of European editions which have the wrong colors on some UEs:
It's a mixed bag. I still say Criterion or someone should buy the rights to make a 007: Technicolor Theatrical Editions box set. There is a reason why I went all the way back to LD for these films. My player acts up sometimes and there is usually print damage, but with a 36" Sony flat panel Trinitron CRT, an older but powerful Sony multichannel reciever, and some old 90's era Klipsch speakers/sub they kill every other edition I've seen: VHS, SE DVD, UE DVD, Blu and the new theatrical presentations. And there's the original audio in PCM to boot.
I will admit the completest in me wants to get the three volume boxes of the SE discs, but everyone charges an absolute arm and leg for them after all these years. (usually $25 to 60 per box! Ridiculous!) I only have a few single SE titles, so I have to base a lot of my comparisons off of screencaps and LDs (which use the exact same master).
Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:59 pm
hegottheboot wrote:
Has the audio in Gumbold's office
I'll shed some light on what this is, since the audio side of things is rarely covered here when talking about the UE blunders.
In the mono track, the music gets louder and louder through its 5 minutes, from barely audible to blaring. In the UE it's at the same volume throughout. There's also the modern automatic rifle fire for Tracy's death, which for me is just as annoying as the Desert Eagle or Glock gunshots in VERTIGO's rooftop chase.
hegottheboot Head of Station
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:33 pm
Indeed. So far only the 1991 Laserdisc is fully uncut and without error. It has the correct dialogue and placements in the stock car rally and everything else. Even the SE DVD has errors and even cuts some of Blofeld's dialogue!
BTW Vertigo got a release of the original mono, but only on the disc inside the 2005 Masterpiece Collection box set. The 2008 Legacy release has a folddown of the 5.1. It has yet to be confirmed if the upcoming Blu-ray will have the mono. It does sound great however despite wear, and blows away the stupid 5.1 mix. I also think the mono for North by Northwest obliterates the 5.1.
For those interested, Here is an old clip I made when first stumbling into Laser. Forgive the youtube quality, and at this point the player/transfer method I was using were not the greatest. Not bad for a basic DV transfer card into a Mac. I finally improved some things and did a whole host of full transfers for an advanced post class, but the problem is working with the older interlaced video. I think I eventually overdid it a bit, but the better alternative would be to use the SE video despite it's overprocessing, and match it with the LD audio which is directly print sourced. These have great dynamic range, which is slightly detectable in this old clip.
Makeshift Python 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:42 pm
hegottheboot wrote:
Where the heck did that come from? An HDTV cap? This is where you can easily see the tweaks that have been made in addition to the tweaks that were made in the process of taking the master files and putting them on the DVD in SD. Some horrible decisions were made there. Overall it looks better but there are still some issues, notable in those caps Laz's skin tone which has an almost purplish cast (akin to what happened with the TB Blu-ray) because they cannot replicate 1960's Technicolor. YOLT will be the big indicator because there is virtually no color at all on that UE. Has the audio in Gumbold's office and the incorrectly added cable car shot been fixed?
I took the screencap myself. iTunes has a few Bond films available in HD. I rented a file and made several screencaps for a compariso project at the old mi6forums to show everyone what might be expected in the blu-ray release.
Quote :
I don't know about the mix being more faithful, as each film had a new 5.1 track created with brand new elements, and inserted the score from the new soundtrack remasters to boot. The DTS-HDMA should be the master version of the Dolby/DTS we saw on the DVDs. (except TB and TSWLM which used pre-existing 5.1 mixes which are far superior due to not having added and changed effects) This must have cost quite a bit and is totally unnecessary. They should have paid for more films to be fully scanned at 4K in stead of just 10.
From what I understand all the mixes were redone for the blu-ray releases in 2008. I didn't watch all of them, but I noticed that TB and TMWTGG no longer had the 2006 audio mix. I can't say for sure about OHMSS, because I assume the iTunes copy I watched used the original mono mix instead of the 2006 mix and I didn't really pay much attention to it beyond noticing that the original sound f/x like in the gunbarrel were intact. I was only focused on how it looked. Ultimately whether the 5.1 mixes are more faithful like the 2008 blu or are the 2006 botched DVD versions, the mono mixes will likely be available and that's how I'll be watching them when I get the set.
Quote :
Here's a post I made on another forum which details my feelings on all the UE transfers as they stand so far in comparison to older discs (which all came from straight print scans):
Quote :
Here's the best source for direct comparisons between the UE transfers and the older SE DVDs which used the same master sources that MGM used on all their 90's era video releases. (FF, this is why that same stubborn hair in the gate under the Rack is in Thunderball from 1989 to 2002. Same recycled transfer but better pressings over time.)
You can also see screencaps form the original Region 2 editions which were released first and had issues that were corrected for the Region 1 discs. (Though hastily.)
Overall, I think that they nailed two or three of the films imagewise-those being Dimaonds are Forever, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker and Licence to Kill. DAF is quite close and looks stunning though some of the colors aren't quite 1971 vintage. TMWTGG is stellar though I don't see enough Technicolor. Moonraker is one of the best transfers I've ever seen and the colors are about 99% accurate. LTK is very very slightly different, but fantastic and is the only release that is fully uncut. (save for some rumored obscure foreign releases back in the early 90's)
Other verdicts: (those with * look better on old editions)
*Doctor No, *FRWL, *Goldfinger: had some amazing cleanup work done, but the color seems to be off and downright muted in most places.
*Thunderball: Clean but with wrong color all over the place. Needs a re-do.
*YOLT: Lacking color that showed off the sunny countryside of Japan. Missing all the deep yellow/brown/orange tint of the 1967 presentation. Re-do.
*OHMSS: Framing a bit shifted to the right, a very tiny shot was accidentally inserted in error, opening blue tinted, some audio errors, no 60's Technicolor look. Re-do.
LALD: The UE DVD was shorn of grain structure and very soft. Contrast boosted and not good looking at all. This has been corrected for the most part.
*TSWLM: All transfers don't look so hot. The film was shot with a lot of soft focus and diffusion which has never been replicated well. The UE removed the original color timing and was full of edge enhancement. Original audio was missing as well. Re-do.
FYEO: Great detail in the UE but some definite color manipulation. Overall great, but slightly different from original.
OP: Same here, great improvement in detail but slight color manipulation.
AVTAK: Looks fantastic, and like a print of the film almost. Color spot on if a bit tweaked. However, the opening teaser is horribly cropped, and you lose information to cropping on top, bottom and sides of the frame throughout. Without the cropping this would be close with MR's transfer.
TLD: Great transfer, very slight modifications to contrast and darkness levels but only to improve the image for home viewing. Great job.
GE: Different color timing which may or may not be Theatrical. Looks better on the whole. Has the cropping issue which has never been confirmed as an error. Audio is a remix from stems and lacks the huge bassy punch of the original.
Tomorrow Never Dies: gets some major improvement and actually looks like the theatrical presentation instead of video. Audio is a remix and quite good, but nowhere near the incredible theatrical mix. (One of the 5 or so best surround mixes I've heard.)
TWINE: Looks better overall, some contrast boosting, less grain, color may have been tweaked a little. Audio likely a remix as well and lacks the matrixed original 6.1 track. Framed to give a bit more on the top edge.
DAD: UE is better but lacks the original soundmix design of a matrixed 6.1 track.
These are my quick opinions and nitpicks for the most part. As I said 99.99% of people are going to be thrilled with the new set. And as a bonus all the new transfers have the original theatrical subtitles/location text and correct aspect ratios.
Another image comparison, though primarily of European editions which have the wrong colors on some UEs:
It's a mixed bag. I still say Criterion or someone should buy the rights to make a 007: Technicolor Theatrical Editions box set. There is a reason why I went all the way back to LD for these films. My player acts up sometimes and there is usually print damage, but with a 36" Sony flat panel Trinitron CRT, an older but powerful Sony multichannel reciever, and some old 90's era Klipsch speakers/sub they kill every other edition I've seen: VHS, SE DVD, UE DVD, Blu and the new theatrical presentations. And there's the original audio in PCM to boot.
I will admit the completest in me wants to get the three volume boxes of the SE discs, but everyone charges an absolute arm and leg for them after all these years. (usually $25 to 60 per box! Ridiculous!) I only have a few single SE titles, so I have to base a lot of my comparisons off of screencaps and LDs (which use the exact same master).
At the moment I don't have too much time to read all that, but I'll get around to it soon.
Control 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:14 pm
hegottheboot wrote:
I will admit the completest in me wants to get the three volume boxes of the SE discs, but everyone charges an absolute arm and leg for them after all these years. (usually $25 to 60 per box! Ridiculous!) I only have a few single SE titles, so I have to base a lot of my comparisons off of screencaps and LDs (which use the exact same master).
I wish you would have posted this last week, as I just sold the blue SE box set for $12.50 on eBay.
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:40 am
Just another little tidbit of which I have recently discovered, in the UK, both DAF and TND have been re-classified. DAF has been re-classified a PG up to a 12, and TND has been re-classified from a 15 down to a 12. It looks as if the '12' rating is becoming ever more dominant.
As far as I am aware, no other Bond films have recently been re-rated in the UK as of yet.
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:50 pm
According to the BBFC website, it is now looking like CR is finally going to be released in its proper uncut form in the UK, this has resulted in the film being re-classified from a 12 up to a 15: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/c2fb077ba3f9b33980256b4f002da32c/99f49f9a55d3e08180257a5900545ccc?OpenDocument
I really must say that these new Bond blu-rays are getting more and more tempting as I learn more about them, hopefully GE and QOS will be getting the same treatment (GE was said to have already been released uncut with the UE but unfortunately there are still a couple of cuts present, QOS supposedly had a few brief cuts as well).
Stamper 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:09 am
The UEs were rushed, especially in Pal land.
In NTSC land, they did a few corrections, than when it came to HD land, they added some more.
I'm betting by now, they will have fixed most of the issues.
tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:16 am
Quick question?
Is a PAL "Region 0" dvd supposed to play in a North American machine?
Reason I ask is that I have one and it freezes up in my Toshiba blu-ray machine. It plays for a bit and then freezes. This pattern continues off and on, rendering the disc effectively unwatchable.
I thought the Region "0" designation might make it compatible but apparently not.
Should I be sticking to NTSC only?
MBalje Q Branch
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:23 pm
James Bond wrote:
Just another little tidbit of which I have recently discovered, in the UK, both DAF and TND have been re-classified. DAF has been re-classified a PG up to a 12, and TND has been re-classified from a 15 down to a 12. It looks as if the '12' rating is becoming ever more dominant.
As far as I am aware, no other Bond films have recently been re-rated in the UK as of yet.
After some time it be normal some movies be re-ranked. Some older Bond movies as SE in country also get the ALL rank. Like some other movies too. But this changed for later releases in to MG6/6 when those be created. Some 12 movies are those days also re-ranked to 9. Some 16 movies are re-ranked to 12. For tv some movies who get ALL changed to 6 or 12 already before dvd's did. All Bond movies are ranked 12. Mi2 is a good example of movie who get re-ranked to 12 from 16 when it whas released in cinema and on dvd.
TDK is one of those exeptions where action movie get 16+ rank those days, the tv version be 12+, the dvd is uncut (same disc as Uk/Germany). Some people complane Die Hard 4.0 not get 16+ (15+ in VS) but get 12+ (PG13), but in the past Die Hard 4.0 have got 16.
With UE dvd and BD of movies like Goldeneye, TMND and Twine people i the Uk get the same version The Netherlands already got earlier. I think DAF is more victem of the explain re-rank rule, because DAF not been cut in the UK like GE, TMND and Twine be. All UE dvd's and the BD Uk releases have Dutch subtitels like the SE of the Batman movies and also shared with Portugal, there only be difrent opnions in reviews about the video/audio. In specialy for GE, OHMSS, TMND and AVTAK. The only difrent opnion i read is that Uk sites and Dutch sites swith with there opniion about vdieo with TMND/AVTAK. OHMSS there be discussions about subtitels with the bonus material (some simalar discussion be about disc 3 of CR.). GE go more about the color of the video i believe.
James Bond wrote:
According to the BBFC website, it is now looking like CR is finally going to be released in its proper uncut form in the UK, this has resulted in the film being re-classified from a 12 up to a 15: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/c2fb077ba3f9b33980256b4f002da32c/99f49f9a55d3e08180257a5900545ccc?OpenDocument
I really must say that these new Bond blu-rays are getting more and more tempting as I learn more about them, hopefully GE and QOS will be getting the same treatment (GE was said to have already been released uncut with the UE but unfortunately there are still a couple of cuts present, QOS supposedly had a few brief cuts as well).
CR in the first place should got that rank. Stil in The Netherlands it isn't re-ranked to a higher rank and from what i know the Dutch version is uncut.
Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:27 pm
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James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:56 pm
DAF looks very much like a borderline PG/12 to me although apart from that I think that the rest of the films are suitably classfied. The only changes that I would make would be to re-classify TB, OHMSS, LALD, FYEO and AVTAK up from a PG to a 12 and QOS from a 12 to a 15.
hegottheboot Head of Station
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:10 pm
tiffanywint wrote:
Quick question?
Is a PAL "Region 0" dvd supposed to play in a North American machine?
Reason I ask is that I have one and it freezes up in my Toshiba blu-ray machine. It plays for a bit and then freezes. This pattern continues off and on, rendering the disc effectively unwatchable.
I thought the Region "0" designation might make it compatible but apparently not.
Should I be sticking to NTSC only?
The Region coding is 0 for allregion. Your player seems to be locking up because it is PAL formatted instead of NTSC. Usually it's the TV or display that has the issues, as the players can usually do both, however some players cannot and it is likely that this feature was completely removed from a modern US machine. If you really need to play it, a PC should do just fine as the disc is region free.
tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:14 pm
hegottheboot wrote:
tiffanywint wrote:
Quick question?
Is a PAL "Region 0" dvd supposed to play in a North American machine?
Reason I ask is that I have one and it freezes up in my Toshiba blu-ray machine. It plays for a bit and then freezes. This pattern continues off and on, rendering the disc effectively unwatchable.
I thought the Region "0" designation might make it compatible but apparently not.
Should I be sticking to NTSC only?
The Region coding is 0 for allregion. Your player seems to be locking up because it is PAL formatted instead of NTSC. Usually it's the TV or display that has the issues, as the players can usually do both, however some players cannot and it is likely that this feature was completely removed from a modern US machine. If you really need to play it, a PC should do just fine as the disc is region free.
Thanks! I do believe you are probably right. My 2010 Toshiba blu-ray is probably only comfortable playing NTSC format. I won't feed it any PAL region "0" discs anymore. I've since re-ordered the disc (Ultimate Kylie videos collection) on NTSC dvd. It is hard to find this disc at a good price. That's why I bought the PAL "0" in the first place, because of the price. Otherwise I wouldn't have risked buying PAL (any region) for a North American machine. Luckily a used NTSC version of the disc recently surfaced at a good price, so I jumped.
I'll probably put the PAL version on Ebay someday.
===btw the Bond blu-ray collection is still listing at $199.99 at Amazon Canada but they are throwing in the Move Poster book (optional) for another $10.00, as opposed to free, like Amazon USA.
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:24 pm
James Bond wrote:
It lloks like the blu-rays will be released seperately after all:
Reletively predictable results so far but at least GF or CR are not winning, so far GE is comfortably in the lead, followed by (you guessed it) GF. Hopefully, Play.com may change their minds and decide to release more than one Bond blu-ray in steel-book form.
As predicted, GE won (not that I am complaining of course), although we have been given a choice of cover artwork. I have opted for option 2 which is the original poster artwork rather than the relatively bland option 1:
This on the official facebook page uses new HD youtube clips from each film and does indeed utilize the new Blu-ray masters that have been floating around.
The previous released discs are essentially being reissued, with DN, FRWL, GF, TB being colored wrong.
On the new issues: YOLT is desaturated just like the UE. OHMSS has been re-timed but still not correctly, Goldeneye is cropped with the alternate color timing, and the rest virtually resemble their UE editions just in 1080p. Nothing has been altered for these remaining titles save for some tweaks to OHMSS's coloring.
Of course judging by youtube clips isn't the best method, but still it's pretty obvious.
Of the new discs, I think the standouts will be LTK and TND for image quality and probably DAF for sheer image detail. (Though not color)
James Bond 'R'
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Subject: Re: Bond 50: Blu-Ray Box Set (2012) Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:03 am
James Bond wrote:
James Bond wrote:
It lloks like the blu-rays will be released seperately after all:
Reletively predictable results so far but at least GF or CR are not winning, so far GE is comfortably in the lead, followed by (you guessed it) GF. Hopefully, Play.com may change their minds and decide to release more than one Bond blu-ray in steel-book form.
As predicted, GE won (not that I am complaining of course), although we have been given a choice of cover artwork. I have opted for option 2 which is the original poster artwork rather than the relatively bland option 1:
The GE steelbook is now up for pre-order on the Play website: http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/35739618/0/James-Bond-GoldenEye/ListingDetails.html
For some reason it shall not be released until December though, unlike the others which are being released in October. Anyway, thankfully it turns out that option 2 (the original poster artwork) won the poll.