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I read about that today. Seems like he did not promise to implement it but to listen to the women who proposed it?
In any case, I saw some women come out against it (including many approaching it from feminist POV).

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Arguments against leaving the EU haven’t cut through. 58% of people say an EU referendum would be worth the time and money but 28% of 18-34 year olds say they’d be more likely to consider leaving the UK if we quit the EU.

http://www.dhacommunications.co.uk/news/bview/view/majority-expect-uk-to-splinter-by-2030-says-landmark-survey.html

Odd and scarcely believable stat. How many of those people would have their day to day lives seriously impacted by leaving the EU? So why on earth would they leave the UK?

The promise of an exodus of young leftists will be another effective weapon in the No campaign arsenal.

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President of Argentina congratulates Comrade Corbyn on his great victory

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Didn't know until today that Corbyn is a long-standing buddy of Gerry Adams, even inviting him to Parliament in the 80s when the IRA's murderous cuntery was still in full swing.

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Indeed Blunty, I'll see your comment and raise you with this:



Little wonder Kercher congratulates Corbyn as he'd give the Falklands over or some joint admin nonsense.

Could you imagine if he ever became PM? Be like A Very British Coup filmed by Guy Ritchie.

Ahhh, the utterly fantastic force of nature that is Brian Blessed. Brilliant.

I don't really understand the Conservatives reaction to this?
Even Cameron's official Twitter account has sent out a fear-mongering tweet.
I thought this was the result they were all (not so) quietly hoping for?

The Conservatives were hoping for this result precisely because it gives them a good opportunity to do what they're doing. Jeremy Corbyn is such an easy target. I worry about them blowing their load too quickly but with Corbyn I suspect they could keep going for the entire parliament. Their first piece of material doesn't even mention his position on the Falklands or NATO, and some of the gems they have used can be further exploited still (if I remember properly, he didn't just call bin Laden's death a tragedy but a tragedy comparable to 9/11).

Ambler, I doubt Corbyn will campaign to leave the EU but I'm sure he'll make it less difficult for those within the party who are sceptic but tribal. I don't buy into the narrative that Corbyn is a supremely principled and consistent politician. He's very stubborn about a few irrelevant leftist shibboleths but I'm sure he'd run a mile from involvement with the Leave campaign if it meant sharing a platform with the favoured boogeymen of the left in the Tory party and UKIP.

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Erica Ambler wrote:

Corbyn is there to be used. Let's see if he can be manipulated to back the Leave the EUSSR campaign.

Out of the EUSSR and into the USSR when his mate Putin gets onto its reformation. The Londonistan-Bishkek railway will be a thing of beauty.

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CJB wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

Corbyn is there to be used. Let's see if he can be manipulated to back the Leave the EUSSR campaign.

Out of the EUSSR and into the USSR when his mate Putin gets onto its reformation. The Londonistan-Bishkek railway will be a thing of beauty.

not if the fuss over HS2 is anything to go by.

I think the Tories should be worried, Corbyn represents a change and demonstrable alternative that the electorate probably hasn't had to consider in the last 30 years. The protest vote that previously rested with the Lib/Dems and may have been key to Ukip's rise last election has now somewhere genuine to rest. Also I would say that in general my experience is that younger people are increasingly left leaning, and in the wake of the recession, looking for a different attitude toward our economic structure - a challenge none of the parties really seemed interested in tackling at the last outing.

You can't win an election by winning the young because they don't vote. I think you might also be mistaking the most vocal of the young as representative of the young as a whole. I recall seeing research recently that suggested that the current cohort of young people are overwhelmingly socially liberal but more economically conservative than most previous generations of young people, and they expect the state to do less for them.

Even if there was an appetite for a new kind of approach, the Tories would have nothing to fear from Corbyn and McDonnell. When polling day comes decent people will remember what those traitors think about Irish republican terrorism and they'll vote for anybody but Labour. McDonnell's performance on Question Time last night exposed him as nothing short of a pathological liar. His forced apology for his infamous IRA comment made no sense given his non-involvement in the peace process, his long-term sympathy for Irish republicanism, and the content of his comments (he wanted to discourage violence by praising its effectiveness?) No thinking person could have fallen for it. Further, if he now sincerely believes that honouring IRA terrorists is wrong, surely he will call on Jeremy Corbyn to apologise for doing just that by observing a silence for them in 1987?

His later justification of Corbyn's refusal to sing the national anthem also stretched credibility given that, if it were true, Corbyn would have said so immiedately when questioned instead of evading the press as he did.

So much for principled politics. He's also written Cameron the blank cheque on the EU that he promised not to, emailing Labour MPs and vowing to campaign to remain in the Union regardless of the outcome of Cameron's renegotiation.

David Cameron ... Prime Minister, international statesman, pig *fancier* (allegedly) .

A quite ordinary political score settling, but a funny one nonetheless.

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The Corbyn brigade only seem to have one defense when the Bearded Communist is attacked for his ridiculous views: "the (Murdoch) media took him out of context!" Amusingly enough they are making the exact same claim this time around, all the while defending his view by purposely omitting the context of Laura Kuenssberg's question about a Paris-style attack and pretending he was just expressing a perfectly normal sentiment about the importance of community policing. It boggles the mind.

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