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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:12 am | |
| Interesting idea that got floated over at CBn in response to the four-minute trailer: - Spoiler:
The train chase in Turkey ends when Eve shoots Bond on top of the train.
If true, this has opened up a few story possibilities for me. For example: - Spoiler:
Bond's mission in Turkey is to find and kill Patrice. Patrice is a mercenary who has been causing trouble for Silva, a high-value MI6 target. The idea is to kill Patrice, gain Silva's trust and bring him in. But the mission goes awry and Patrice senses that he's been made. He runs, and Bond gives chase, assisted by Eve.
Eve feels that things are going on for far too long, and shoots Bond to end the chase. She then tries to get close to Silva by making him believe that Bond was actually Patrice. However, her duplicity is quickly revealed - Patrice and Silva may have been working together from the start in order to infiltrate MI6 - and they attack MI6.
Bond, having recovered from his bullet wound, is recalled to London to deal with the the problem. He is given a psych evaluation before being given his mission, but works out what is going to be asked to do. He hesitates when he is asked about "Skyfall" and leaves when he is pressed about it because he knows his assignment is to find and kill Eve before Silva and Patrice strike again.
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bondfan06 'R'
Posts : 339 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:15 am | |
| This is what apparently happened in the Skyfall extended trailer shown at the Barcelona trade event. - Spoiler:
Clocked it at around 4minutesish.
Extended Bond training, lovely shots of him swimming in a pool. Bond and M driving in the DB5, M's saying something about being on the run, and they need to be as far away as possible. Bond running and shooting in a building. Bond in a tux, getting thrown across a room. Bond telling M that people are coming to kill them (This was in the teaser, but it showed a reaction shot from M) Bond in a casino of some sort, brushing past a very beautiful woman. M SHOOTING A GUN! I think it was the P99! Javier Bardem walking towards a burning building. Ralph Fiennes saying something about conspiracy and M's up to her neck in it. An AMAZZZING shot of Bond throwing himself onto the back of a train, then falling off the side and hanging on. Bond running away from an expolosion in scotland. A woman looking out at a window, thats been shot out (from the trailer) Bond running through a tunnel, looks like it's on fire behind him. Ben Whilshaw as Q! Informing Bond about changes to his DB5. Then it shows Bond and M in what looks like a disused warehouse, with the Aston. Q saying that it has a gps system, and a system link to Tanner, so he can keep in touch with them. (Looks like Tanner is staying behind, and secretly helping them) Bond fighting a guy underwater. Niomie Harris' character driving a jeep, and avoiding loads of cars falling off a train. Bond running along the top of a train. Shot of the DB5 firing a missile(!) M looking at 8 coffins. Bond walking through Trafalgar Square looking pissed off. Javier Bardem in what looks like a really old building, in the dark. Bond throwing loads of punches. (loads of shots like this, but they all look awesome) Bond getting thrown into water, and then it shows a close up of his hands and face, bubbles coming out of his mouth. Bond fighting a guy from the teaser in that office building. Bond got headbutted. Bond in this really well lit room, looking over a dead man in a chair. Bond holding Niomie Harris in front of her, kissing her neck and her smiling. MI6 HQ blowing up and M getting thrown back. Bond and M in front of the DB5, and Bond pouring them both a drink. Bond turning around and firing a gun. A Bloody Bond walking away from someone in the background. A train coming through a ceiling. Bond taking out his gun and attatching a silencer. Bond on a really colourful motorway. A woman kissing Bond on a boat, just after Bond walks up to her. Bond opening a door with his gun arm raised. DB5 skidding round a corner. Dramatic shot of Judi Dench with ash on her face, standing outside in snow. A train going over a bridge and blowing up, Bond jumping off it in slow motion.
The title bit is amazing! Bond turns and shoots at the screen, wearing a suit. A gunbarrel forms around him and spins. Bond walks slowly toward us, with his gun at his side, through the gunbarrel (like the teaser poster)
The dialogue, i can't remember much of, it all went over me. There's bits and pieces of it. Bond introduces himself though! "Bond James Bond." I think he's saying it to Bardem. The music is about 3 minutes worth of that electronic Bond theme from the teaser, new mix then it turns into a fully orchestral Bond theme. It sounded very nice.
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:41 am | |
| There's already a thread on that. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5843 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:19 pm | |
| Four months and COUNT-ing!
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| Banter from the Q scene in the IMAX trailer: - Spoiler:
Q: ”I’m your new quartermaster.” Bond: “You must be joking.” Q: “I’ll hazard I can do more damage on my laptop, sitting in my pajamas, than you can do in a year in the field.” Bond: “So, why do you need me?” Q: “Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled.” Bond: “Or not pulled. It’s hard to know which… in your pajamas… Q.”
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:50 am | |
| See, I don't get this whole "Whishaw will just be Simon Pegg in MI3" talk. Off the back of that, I can see Q as being some stuffy, uppity, self-important know-it-all, which is really how I imagine a younger version of Desmond Llewellyn's Q. There's one film - I can't remember which one off the top of my head - where Q adopts a lecturing tone and says something like "Well, it's quite simply really ...". The whole point of reintroducing the character is to show the beginning of his relationship with Bond, so from the sounds of things, the writers have managed to capture part of Q's personality whilst leaving out the warmth towards Bond. |
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Harmsway Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2801 Member Since : 2011-08-22
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:45 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- Banter from the Q scene in the IMAX trailer:
- Spoiler:
Q: ”I’m your new quartermaster.” Bond: “You must be joking.” Q: “I’ll hazard I can do more damage on my laptop, sitting in my pajamas, than you can do in a year in the field.” Bond: “So, why do you need me?” Q: “Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled.” Bond: “Or not pulled. It’s hard to know which… in your pajamas… Q.”
Not bad. |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3693 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:11 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- Banter from the Q scene in the IMAX trailer:
- Spoiler:
Q: ”I’m your new quartermaster.” Bond: “You must be joking.” Q: “I’ll hazard I can do more damage on my laptop, sitting in my pajamas, than you can do in a year in the field.” Bond: “So, why do you need me?” Q: “Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled.” Bond: “Or not pulled. It’s hard to know which… in your pajamas… Q.”
Yes, I like this. The "you must be joking" is a nice homage to GF, as Brown suggested earlier. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:27 am | |
| I'm very interested to see how Craig delivers that line. Two of the best lines in QUANTUM OF SOLACE were "Well, that's good, because there isn't any." and "I never left." because while they aren't the greatest lines in the world, Craig's delivery is what made them excellent.
I also like the exchange between M and the un-named second person about specific intelligence. I'd have to hear it to be sure, but I think it really reflects the changing nature of Bond's relationship with M: he has his way of doing things, and while M might not like it, she does accept that he gets results, and so the most she can do is grumble about it. Yes, her involvement in the story does seem to be at an all-time high, but I think she'll also fit better into this story than she has in the past. |
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GeneralGogol Q Branch
Posts : 878 Member Since : 2011-03-17 Location : Kremlin
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:57 pm | |
| - tiffanywint wrote:
- Makeshift Python wrote:
- Banter from the Q scene in the IMAX trailer:
- Spoiler:
Q: ”I’m your new quartermaster.” Bond: “You must be joking.” Q: “I’ll hazard I can do more damage on my laptop, sitting in my pajamas, than you can do in a year in the field.” Bond: “So, why do you need me?” Q: “Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled.” Bond: “Or not pulled. It’s hard to know which… in your pajamas… Q.”
Yes, I like this. The "you must be joking" is a nice homage to GF, as Brown suggested earlier. I like this too. I can already picture Bond's face as he says this. 8) |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:36 pm | |
| A nice theory that I found over at CBn, about a very subtle nod to Dr. No: - Spoiler:
When Severine is standing by the window in the IMAX trailer, there is a painting in the background - a Modigliani known as Women with Fan that was recently stolen from a museum in Paris. This has led to the theory that Severine is trafficking in stolen art.
Furthermore, Bond is seen getting a briefing in the National Gallery, and the extension of the above theory holds that Bond may be tracking Severine through the art world - possibly by having him pose as a buyer, or a representative of a buyer of stolen art.
Full credit to Shrublands for working this one out. |
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Walecs Q Branch
Posts : 613 Member Since : 2012-06-04 Location : Italy
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:52 pm | |
| I recognised National Gallery too, as well as Vauxhall Bridge and, obviously, MI6. Though I can't see how this makes a nod to Dr. No. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:26 pm | |
| In 1961, Goya's Portrait of the Duke of Wellington was stolen.from the National Portray Gallery in London. In DR. NO, that painting appears on the wall of No's subterranean lair. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:34 pm | |
| Anyone know how much of this film was shot with IMAX cameras?
If it's a a decent amount, I'm going to book tickets at Lincoln Square the first chance I get. If not, then I'll probably just see this in a standard AMC theater. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:43 pm | |
| Nothing was shot in IMAX for SKYFALL. It'll be a blow up release like it was done with other flicks like INCEPTION. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:42 am | |
| I love the idea of Bond being "taken out" in the pre-titles, as we've been seeing in the trailers. This film's going to be quite interesting. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:50 am | |
| I wonder if that is intentionally mirroring the past few years concerning the Bond series. Bond being shot down mirroring the series being put on hiatus in 2010. MI6 putting 007 back on active duty mirroring his return to the big screen. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:53 am | |
| Apparently when Bond returns to London, he breaks into M's flat again. She tells him his flat's been sold and his possessions put in storage. She tells him to find a hotel because he's "bloody well not sleeping here."
I believe this comes from the leaked screenplay. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:08 am | |
| That would explain the scenes in the trailer where Bond is shirtless in an undergruond bunker of some kind. |
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AMC Hornet Head of Station
Posts : 1235 Member Since : 2011-08-18 Location : Station 'C' - Canada
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:39 am | |
| That's gratitude for you.
Brosnan's Bond spent more than a year in a Korean jail, but when he returned to London nowt was said about his flat being sold and his stuff going into storage.
Of course, BrosBond wasn't supposed to be dead, so I suppose it make sense for the service to pack CraigBond up. Can't have a dead man coming in and switching on the lights.
Perhaps all those who've longed to see how Bond lives will be treated to a montage of Bond choosing a new flat, picking out furniture and selecting paint and wallpaper, etc...
Best to save that for a 'director's cut,' so I can choose not to buy it. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:01 am | |
| - AMC Hornet wrote:
- Can't have a dead man coming in and switching on the lights.
That would make for a good line of dialogue when Bond questions why it happened. After all, he's probably going to be missing and presumed to be dead since there is no body. |
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Walecs Q Branch
Posts : 613 Member Since : 2012-06-04 Location : Italy
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:44 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- I wonder if that is intentionally mirroring the past few years concerning the Bond series. Bond being shot down mirroring the series being put on hiatus in 2010. MI6 putting 007 back on active duty mirroring his return to the big screen.
They did that with Johnny English 2. Also, let's not forget there's a six years gap between last James Bond's mission, as CR took place in 2006 (according to the dates in the recording room, at the hotel), and QOS was only few hours after CR's ending. |
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James Bond 'R'
Posts : 319 Member Since : 2012-06-01
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:24 am | |
| - Walecs wrote:
- Makeshift Python wrote:
- I wonder if that is intentionally mirroring the past few years concerning the Bond series. Bond being shot down mirroring the series being put on hiatus in 2010. MI6 putting 007 back on active duty mirroring his return to the big screen.
They did that with Johnny English 2.
Also, let's not forget there's a six years gap between last James Bond's mission, as CR took place in 2006 (according to the dates in the recording room, at the hotel), and QOS was only few hours after CR's ending. Remember that they ballsed up there because if you re-watch the scene in QOS where Bond goes to the 'Greene Planet' fundraiser I believe that it states a date in August 2008 on the ticket. My theory is that there is a two-year gap between the death of Vesper and Bond's tracking down of Mr White towards the end of CR. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:26 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- I wonder if that is intentionally mirroring the past few years concerning the Bond series. Bond being shot down mirroring the series being put on hiatus in 2010. MI6 putting 007 back on active duty mirroring his return to the big screen.
I think maybe you're reading a bit too much into it. Maybe Bond is shot because it tells a good story - for example, we know that Bond's loyalty to M is challenged over secrets from her past. What if those secrets are that she had Bond shot to stage his death? It seems utterly bizarre that MI6 should leave a drive containing the identities of every single undercover agent they have just lying around in a foreign city where anyone can get it. Perhaps M let the drive be leaked, tagged so that MI6 always knew exactly where it was. And then she had Bond shot to fake his death, and allow the shooter - Eve - to gain the trust of people who wanted the drive? That sounds like the kind of thing that would a) make Bond question his loyalty to her (or her to him), and prompt the government to order a review of the agency. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Skyfall (2012) - UK Oct 26th , US Nov 9th [SPOILERS] Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:30 am | |
| - James Bond wrote:
- Remember that they ballsed up there because if you re-watch the scene in QOS where Bond goes to the 'Greene Planet' fundraiser I believe that it states a date in August 2008 on the ticket. My theory is that there is a two-year gap between the death of Vesper and Bond's tracking down of Mr White towards the end of CR.
Or that they just ignored timeline issues. After all, James Bond has been played by six actors in fifty years. If the producers can ignore the changes in the actor, they can ignore the changes in dates within two separate films. A long time ago, I constructed a timeline based on the dates on the Blu-ray disc in the Bahamas in CASINO ROYALE and the running of the Palio di Siena in QUANTUM OF SOLACE. The film can take place in the course of a single year - there is enough time for the events of CASINO ROYALE to play out from the scenes in the Bahamas to the interrogation of Mr. White, allowing for some time for Bond to recover from his injuries at the hands of Le Chiffre and get from Venice to Siena. The dates are inconsequential. |
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