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Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
"Kincade helps M along" - are so vague that I can't help but think this is a fake.
That's how call sheets are. They're vague.

To fake a call sheet, you'd really have to work on it. And this is just an excerpt of an extensive call sheet with all the mundane details that do make it seem 100% legit.

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Likewise, it lists both the 6th and 7th of February as a Monday and has an entire day dedicated to filming a scene (the shaving) that production would only get one take to get right.
Not unless the shaving is an extended dialogue scene.
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Not sure whether the above are spoilers or whatever (Kincade helps M along...), but can we please make an effort to conceal whatever may be spoilers. Some of us want to go in almost blind (save for the trailer, etc).
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The call sheet was being sold on eBay last weekend. The James Bond Brasil site apparently bought it. There may be two more being auctioned now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Skyfall-Crowd-Pass-And-Call-Sheet-/290681039023?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item43adf0a8af


http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Skyfall-Call-Sheet-/290681040432?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item43adf0ae30

The James Bond Brasil site has posted copies of six pages from the call sheets:

http://jamesbondbrasil.com/2012/03/vazam-informacoes-sobre-trama-de-007-operacao-skyfall-2/
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The part about Bond discussing his childhood with M over a drink is seriously concerning to me.

Christ, yes! It's one thing for Bond to have a moment of reverie in his head during the books, but to verbalize? And to M? I thought that this character was actually coming close to being something like Bond in the QUANTUM revealed / Tosca part of QoS, but this probably takes the whole thing back to zero for me, unless there is some kind of tricking M thing going on with him. And even if it is that, they should have found a more credible way to do it, because this sounds like Another Way To Die (for the film that is) in my mind.
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Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
Likewise, it lists both the 6th and 7th of February as a Monday and has an entire day dedicated to filming a scene (the shaving) that production would only get one take to get right.

Not necessarily. Perhaps Eve is giving Bond a Brazilian?

Probably just clearing the debris of stubble visible in most pics. I'm assuming that is limited to his face, but ?
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dr. strangelove wrote:
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The part about Bond discussing his childhood with M over a drink is seriously concerning to me.

Which basically tells you everything about SKYFALL that you need to know.

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That's just a disaster waiting to happen. Eve shaving Bond is also a little....odd.

I'm surprised that Babs isn't having Mendes have Bond shave Eve's legs.


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and that the baddie is named Silva.

The bad guy's name sounds like something Miley Cyrus would smoke in a bong.

This film has EPIC FAIL written all over it.
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Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
I love the way people have already judged this based on a single line in a leaked call sheet that we have no way of verifying as being legit. Seriously, reading some of the descriptions of filming - for example. "Kincade helps M along" - are so vague that I can't help but think this is a fake. Likewise, it lists both the 6th and 7th of February as a Monday and has an entire day dedicated to filming a scene (the shaving) that production would only get one take to get right.

First of all, every other rumor that has come out about SKYFALL has turned out to be true, so as far as I'm concerned, EON is guilty until proven innocent.

Secondly, it's a Sam Mendes film. He'd take 2 or 3 days filming Craig take a piss if that's what he feels he needs. The shoot is an epic 7 months long. Babs has given Sam the keys to the kingdom. He is free to do whatever he wants with the series, no matter how long it takes. I wouldn't be surprised if the film comes out Summer of 2013.
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James Bond Brasil said it had to take down the images of the Skyfall call sheets.
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Napoleon Solo wrote:
James Bond Brasil said it had to take down the images of the Skyfall call sheets.

Translation = call sheets were legitimate

Clearly EON doesn't want us to be disappointed in the film until they actually release it.
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Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
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James Bond Brasil said it had to take down the images of the Skyfall call sheets.

Translation = call sheets were legitimate

Clearly EON doesn't want us to be disappointed in the film until they actually release it.

Does seem unlikely they'd force a Web site to take the images down if they were fakes, doesn't it?
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Napoleon Solo wrote:
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James Bond Brasil said it had to take down the images of the Skyfall call sheets.

Translation = call sheets were legitimate

Clearly EON doesn't want us to be disappointed in the film until they actually release it.

Does seem unlikely they'd force a Web site to take the images down if they were fakes, doesn't it?

Remember when one of those other websites published excepts from the DIE ANOTHER DAY script while the movie was being produced, and EON/MGM got the website shut down for a few weeks, and then when the site came back up they were not allowed to use images from the movies on their site and to this very day, like 10 years later or something, they still don't have a single MGM-authorized photo? It's kind of like that. In this case, whoever James Bond Brasil is, he got his hands on some authentic call sheets and then got a "call" from one of EON's lawyers. Probably Pierce O'Donnell if he's still alive.

I have a case of the sads for Prisoner Monkeyballs. He's trying so hard to act as if the critics of SKYFALL are somehow out of touch or hysterical or over-reacting based on 'vague call sheets which probably aren't true', yet the call sheets clearly were. I can' t wait to see how PMS spins this.
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Here's a quick list of things that have been reported:

1. Skyfall cutting back on number of foreign locations. Later, Naomie Harris in a public setting makes a comment about how Skyfall isn't that big on locations. I suppose you can say this remains to be verified.

2. Daniel Craig would have a beard in Skyfall. Well, at least part of it he will, since confirmed with the official poublicity still, shots by photographers when filming began.

3. Bond 23 would be titled Skyfall. Confirmed at November press conference.

4. Ralph Fiennes was in the cast. Confirmed at November press conference.

5. Albert Fiennes was in the cast. Confirmed at November press conference.

6. Naomie Harris is in the cast. Confirmed at November press conference.


7. Naomie Harris will play Moneypenny. You tell me. It appeared to be denied definitvely, but it's resurfaced again and people are going back and looking at the comments she and others made more carefully.


8. Berenice Marlohe is in the cast. Confirmed at November press conference.

9. Javier Bardem is in the cast. Confirmed by the actor in an ABC interview.

10. Skyfall would have a U.S. release date of November 2012 (first reported in late 2010, confirmed in January 2011 press release).

11. Sam Mendes being considered to direct Skyfall . Confirmed by director's publicist to a U.K. newspaper, denied by the director in a Wall Street Journal interview a few days later. Confirmed by Eon in January 2011 press release.


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It took seven films to happen, but M has finally become the leading Bond girl. I'll bring a tranquilizer to the cinema just in case. Or a 26-ouncer. Or both.

Anyone want to take a bet on when Barbara Broccoli eventually casts herself as a Bond Girl?
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Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
He's trying so hard to act as if the critics of SKYFALL are somehow out of touch or hysterical or over-reacting based on 'vague call sheets which probably aren't true', yet the call sheets clearly were.
If EON asked for the call sheets to be taken down, then I'm satisfied that they were legitimate. I simply wanted some evidence that they were the genuine article to begin with, since it wouldn't be too difficult for some enterpreising soul to do a mock-up of a call sheet themselves, and then "leak" it and watch it take like wildfire. Don't you remember the time Spynovelfan started a rumour at CBn just to prove a point, and it rapidly ballooned out of control?

Nevertheless, you're not off the hook. As has been pointed out to me, call sheets are oftentimes vague because they simply give the cast and crew and overview of what it being shot - almost like a reference guide to the script; the people involved in the day's shooting can use the call sheet to find the scenes due to be shot in the script with ease. No further detail is necessary. However, you still posted this:

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The part about Bond discussing his childhood with M over a drink is seriously concerning to me.
Which basically tells you everything about SKYFALL that you need to know.
Really? Do you know the details of this scene? Have you read a copy of the script? What do you have, beyond a single, simple sentence, that this is undeinable proof of the quality of the script? I'm amazed at your ability to judge an entire film on the basis of a single, out-of-context sentence. Or could it be - shock, horror - that you're looking for reasons to hate the film before you've actually seen it?

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
as far as I'm concerned, EON is guilty until proven innocent.
And you're an idiot until proven otherwise. Based on what I've seen, you're only ever happy when you've got something to bitch about.

I'm sure you can excuse me if I'd rather get my hopes up and be disappointed once in a while, as opposed to preaching doom and gloom and then being proven right every time. Honestly, I pity you. Your high-prized cynicism isn't the virtue you so obviously want it to be. The ability to tell when people are bullshitting you is a very useful skill. But your ability to assume everyone is bullshitting you as a matter of course is just pathetic. Worse, you seem to think you are the only person capable of this, which just makes you downright patronising.
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Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
as far as I'm concerned, EON is guilty until proven innocent.
And you're an idiot until proven otherwise.
Really mature.
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Don't you remember the time Spynovelfan started a rumour at CBn just to prove a point, and it rapidly ballooned out of control?

Of course I remember that. I was the one who told Screenrant.com that Spynovelfan was lying to them and trying to get them to run a bogus story. Felt good to snitch on him; he got what he deserved.

So, who are you? I don't remember a PrisonerMonkey over at CBn. What's your name over there?

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The part about Bond discussing his childhood with M over a drink is seriously concerning to me.
Which basically tells you everything about SKYFALL that you need to know.
Really? Do you know the details of this scene?


Um, yes. Bond......M............in a bar............drinking.........discussing his childhood. It's pretty much all there on the er, uh, call sheet.

I'm sure the scene is going to be something along the lines of Bond discussing how he was buggered as a child by a priest and that is why he acts recklessly and rebels against authority.

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Have you read a copy of the script? Or could it be - shock, horror - that you're looking for reasons to hate the film before you've actually seen it?

What's behind door #2.

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you're only ever happy when you've got something to bitch about.

Yeah, pretty much.

Want to know where I went so horribly wrong? Right here:


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I'm an IDIOT? Babs made me! Remember? When she dropped James Bond into a blonde wig, high heels and a dress. That wasn't easy to get over, and don't think I didn't try.

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So, who are you? I don't remember a PrisonerMonkey over at CBn. What's your name over there?

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So, who are you? I don't remember a PrisonerMonkey over at CBn. What's your name over there?

Captain Tightpants.

The face is familiar. As is the manner.
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Um, yes. Bond......M............in a bar............drinking.........discussing his childhood. It's pretty much all there on the er, uh, call sheet.
I was thinking something more specific. You know, details of the scene.

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I'm sure the scene is going to be something along the lines of Bond discussing how he was buggered as a child by a priest and that is why he acts recklessly and rebels against authority.
You have no evidence of that.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
What's behind door #2.

Yeah, pretty much.
I thought so.

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Want to know where I went so horribly wrong? Right here:

I'm an IDIOT? Babs made me! Remember? When she dropped James Bond into a blonde wig, high heels and a dress. That wasn't easy to get over, and don't think I didn't try.

R.I.P James Bond 007 (murdered March 8th, 2011)
That's strange. I remember you being flagrantly cynical on the old MI6 forums.
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That's strange. I remember you being flagrantly cynical on the old MI6 forums.

One has to be "cynical" and have thick skin if they are going to debate that Roger Moore was the best Bond ever, that Sean Connery only ranked in the middle, that AVTAK is a classic film, that Gardner is an underrated novelist, and LICENSE TO KILL REVOKED was pure sh**e. Having said all that....I'm flattered that you remember me from a forum that I haven't posted in since the summer of 2006. Never let it be said that Gravity's Silhouette fails to make an impression, good or bad.
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Want to know where I went so horribly wrong? Right here:
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I'm an IDIOT? Babs made me! Remember? When she dropped James Bond into a blonde wig, high heels and a dress. That wasn't easy to get over, and don't think I didn't try.

R.I.P James Bond 007 (murdered March 8th, 2011)

The thing about that episode is....no one seems to ever comment on it in any news item about James Bond or Skyfall. When Craig was first cast, almost every other news item about Casino Royale mentioned the controversy about his casting, and the craignotbond site...but no one raises that moment about Bond in a dress. Or at least in any item I've read recently...as sporadically as they come....

I don't see it having any kind of adverse residual effect.
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What Ms. Sects said.

To be honest, I'm fucking sick of said thing being (if you'll pardon the pun) dragged up ... a year on, Gravy is literally the only person I know who still gives a shit about it (if they even knew of it in the first place). Personally, I think it was at best misguided ... but by the time Skyfall's released, I'm willing to bet it will be even longer forgotten.
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The thing about that episode is....no one seems to ever comment on it in any news item about James Bond or Skyfall. When Craig was first cast, almost every other news item about Casino Royale mentioned the controversy about his casting, and the craignotbond site...but no one raises that moment about Bond in a dress. Or at least in any item I've read recently...as sporadically as they come....

I don't see it having any kind of adverse residual effect.

I agree that it probably won't hurt the box office, but there was considerable controversy surrounding the advert at the time it came out. The thing about our culture in the United States is that we suffer from information overload, and we tend to move from one controversy to the next rather quickly.

Craig-in-a-dress is indicative of everything that is wrong with the series right now, including scenes of Bond discussing his childhood with M over drinks in a bar.
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A call sheet has leaked and been posted on James Bond Brazil by Marketto. Big spoilers ahead.

Spoiler:

Holy shit, that call sheet reads like an inspired spoof of the Babs & Dench era. If it were directed as such, it would work brilliantly. But, as it stands as a faux-serious Bond flick, it goes well above and beyond even my predictions for just how bad this thing was gonna get. Wow, they just refuse to learn a fucking thing.

Just to try and offset the inevitable response from Prisoner Monkeys, let's take a look at this highly-prized piece of toilet paper in greater detail....

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I'm trying to avoid spoilers to the best of my ability, but...

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
including scenes of Bond discussing his childhood with M over drinks in a bar.

... Is this for real?
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