Star Trek Into Darkness ::: May 17, 2013

Ah, doy!

At least it will be interesting academically to compare a movie made by adults about adults for adults with a movie mad by ponces about ponces for ponces so directly.

So there's a bunch of sites now claiming this "Harrison" was actually in TOS...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/12/10/new-star-trek-image-solves-one-mystery-stirs-up-others/

Because he was in "Space Seed". I'm sure when Abrams was watching that episode he randomly pointed his finger at a non-speaking role in the background shouting "THAT'S OUR VILLAIN!"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison

For the first time in a long while, I am really feeling the loss of our pre and post NuTrek photomontage library from KTBEU.

San Francisco, 2265:


"Jim, do you remember how you felt when you found out you were getting command of the Enterprise? Do you think anyone who loved you would want to take that away from you? Do you think you could love anyone that tried? I knew I would lose you from the moment I met you. No matter what we do, it won't make any difference. I can't go with you and you can't stay with me."


"I know you're right, I just... I don't want to lose you."

Meanwhile, in an alternate (moronic) timeline:


"Jim, I'm pregnant."


"ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!"

Python wrote:

So there's a bunch of sites now claiming this "Harrison" was actually in TOS...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/12/10/new-star-trek-image-solves-one-mystery-stirs-up-others/

Because he was in "Space Seed". I'm sure when Abrams was watching that episode he randomly pointed his finger at a non-speaking role in the background shouting "THAT'S OUR VILLAIN!"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison

I've always loved Memory Alpha's tendency to treat all of a background extra's appearances as a single, coherent, character so long as they were referred to by some kind of name sometime.

Even though there's a big note at the end of that artcile to the effect that it might not even be his name.

It's kinda hard to complain about Alice Eve, but I suppose I could try. I haven't actually seen her in anything that I know of. I guess you could say she looks like an Abercrombie & Fitch model as opposed to a brilliant molecular biologist. Still, they could have done a lot worse and I can't complain about her too much. She may be on the list of things I like in STD. Hey, I liked Saldana as Uhura, if not most of her dialogue or character function.

Trying to find a way to complain about Alice Eve playing a brainiac.



Not having any luck.

My totally out of left field idea about Cumberwhoosis, reprinted from a post I just made elsewhere:

There aren't that many people named Harrison in TOS that I recall. Could it be he is related to the William B. Harrison who was a member of the BEAGLE, the ship captained by RM Merrick in BREAD & CIRCUSES? If he was P.O.'d about his brother being lost on a ship surveying an earth-type world, he might have prime directive issues (like OMNE in the PHOENIX novels, for those of you who go WAY back) and decide to interfere in his own way with Earth/Starfleet.

Hey, it's ridiculous, but everybody's grasping at straws here (when I checked the episode's teaser just now, I was really thinking the character mentioned was named John Harrison & I was going to have a real a-ha moment (not the band.)

Well, I think my speculation (and interest) ends here. Somebody told me that Abrams gave an interview dismissing folks P.O.'d by the Enterprise's ability to operate on purpose as a submarine as folks who should just be happy watching reruns of the old show.

Abrams you ignorant slut.

I hope your childhood was one of delirious Roddenberrian optimism where you found yourself in a roomful of shit and made mud pies out of it while waiting for the Taun-Taun who produced all this crap to emerge as your own go-motion version of a sehlat.

Fuck you and the Taun-Taun you obviously wish you could have rode in on.

trev, one of the finest posts I've read re: JJTrek. No lie.

Fae wrote:

yes, yes

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Meanwhile, in the books, April is revealed to be someone who came from Coventry in England. You know England, right? That's where London is. You remember why that matters right? Because of the one-sheet looking out on the London skyline.

Harmsway wrote:

Is Benedict Cumberbatch actually playing Robert April?

I just don't see how. April's age is pretty firmly established as making him a member of ST: The Past Generation, something that an early 23rd century time incursion by Nero wouldn't have affected in the slightest. April sounds like a smokescreen to me, but what do I know, I didn't realize starships could set their bow planes for impulse maneuvers in H20 ...

I'm no expert on TREK or April, but a glimpse at Memory Alpha shows that April would have been 35 when Nero made his time travel incursion, creating the alternate timeline. It seems to me that they could contrive a scenario that would allow a transformed April to be active at the time of INTO DARKNESS.

Harmsway wrote:

I'm no expert on TREK or April, but a glimpse at Memory Alpha shows that April would have been 35 when Nero made his time travel incursion, creating the alternate timeline. It seems to me that they could contrive a scenario that would allow a transformed April to be active at the time of INTO DARKNESS.

But I couldn't imagine to what end. He's not a major character in Trek. He showed up in a cartoon episode and is basically an historical footnote being the first captain of the Enterprise. I can't imagine how they would make him a villain, or why they would.

The White Tuxedo wrote:

Harmsway wrote:

I'm no expert on TREK or April, but a glimpse at Memory Alpha shows that April would have been 35 when Nero made his time travel incursion, creating the alternate timeline. It seems to me that they could contrive a scenario that would allow a transformed April to be active at the time of INTO DARKNESS.

But I couldn't imagine to what end. He's not a major character in Trek. He showed up in a cartoon episode. I can't imagine how they would make him a villain, or why they would.

For the sake of having some kind of TREK canon character, I guess.

That there was production art marking the gun as "April's gun" is more to go on than the "Garth of Izar" theorists had.

He's not even the first captain of the Enterprise anymore, thanks to Nero, somehow.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

He's not even the first captain of the Enterprise anymore, thanks to Nero, somehow.

He is of the Enterprise that matters most.

I frankly don't care what they do. I disregard the Abramsverse anyway.

Saw the full trailer. Still not sure what to make of it other than acknowledge it's an extended version of the shorter trailer that came out.

I don't understand the marketing world we now live in with trailers of trailers.

Also, anyone ever read "Star Trek: Final Frontier"? It's a novel written before that was the title of the fifth movie -- indeed before TNG came along and solidifed most of the Trek timeline (so the dates in the book are a little funky) -- but it's a pretty cool book about George Samuel Kirk and Robert April and the launching of the NCC-1701 and so on. It's where that article got that "George Kirk was Robert April's XO" and "Robert April is from England" stuff from.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

I don't understand the marketing world we now live in with trailers of trailers.

Also, anyone ever read "Star Trek: Final Frontier"? It's a novel written before that was the title of the fifth movie -- indeed before TNG came along and solidifed most of the Trek timeline (so the dates in the book are a little funky) -- but it's a pretty cool book about George Samuel Kirk and Robert April and the launching of the NCC-1701 and so on. It's where that article got that "George Kirk was Robert April's XO" and "Robert April is from England" stuff from.

Brought it not long ago but not read it yet. Most of the April/George Kirk stuff I had picked up on from Best Destiny. I tend to assume that Kirk Senior served on Enterprise early on under April. Carey I believe has April's wife Sarah as CMO.

All this added to the new movie Kirk Senior jarring.

Well, I went a-trawling and forgive me for this post of posts but I think...they should be shared.



"And, here...we...go"





"Directed by Nicholas Meyer", if only, if only










it's all part of the plan.

New trailer.