Renaming and/or reorganising our forums: Is this our way forward?

It absolutely is your place to say - and it's a very valid point to bring up (that you wouldn't have found the place without Bond in the name).

Interesting voting outcome so far, neck and neck. Clearly premature to discuss any name change.

I'd like to throw something else into the mix: a change of management. Seems to me that a more hands-on administrator would be useful in developing this place.

No need for a revolution.

FieldsMan wrote:

No need for a revolution.

I agree. Not talking about a change of ownership here just day to day management. If M can't be here more than once or twice a month then he needs to delegate and that responsibility needs to be based on ability not on friendship.

CJB wrote:

Your opinion is more than welcome, British Vulture. Indeed, it might be helpful to find out how new recruits came to find B&B, what prompted them to sign up etc.

Agreed.

Erica Ambler wrote:

Interesting voting outcome so far, neck and neck. Clearly premature to discuss any name change.

I'd like to throw something else into the mix: a change of management. Seems to me that a more hands-on administrator would be useful in developing this place.

Erica Ambler wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

No need for a revolution.

I agree. Not talking about a change of ownership here just day to day management. If M can't be here more than once or twice a month then he needs to delegate and that responsibility needs to be based on ability not on friendship.

This I agree with, and it's actually something that's been on my mind for the last week or two. Not taking any appreciation away from M and his efforts as admin, but we do need someone who comes in a more frequent basis. I would like a second admin assigned, at least someone who visits more often than not. I personally feel that I am up for the challenge, but I firmly believe that if a new admin is assigned it should be someone that has earned the confidence of mods and prominent members. Suggestions should be brought up for who is eligible.

Of course, this will ultimately be M's call on whether a new is assigned or not.

Largo's Shark wrote:

The Kiss Kiss Club?

The Golden Grotto?

Shrublands?

Palmyra?

Piz Gloria?

Crab Key?

Blades?

Scaramanga's Fun House?

SPECTRE Island?

The Tears of Allah?

Bedlam?

Some great names... I love the sounds of The Golden Grotto, Shrublands, and Blades.

could you imagine the increase in members if it changed to The Tears of Allah....it would be Muslim central around here.

Big Boss wrote:

Largo's Shark wrote:

The Kiss Kiss Club?

The Golden Grotto?

Shrublands?

Palmyra?

Piz Gloria?

Crab Key?

Blades?

Scaramanga's Fun House?

SPECTRE Island?

The Tears of Allah?

Bedlam?

Some great names... I love the sounds of The Golden Grotto, Shrublands, and Blades.

could you imagine the increase in members if it changed to The Tears of Allah....it would be Muslim central around here.

Verily. It might become the Castle of Death.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

If people don't fancy threads...can't they just stay the fuck out and stick to the ones they want to post in? Instead of bitching at those that don't interest them?

This. No-one is forcing anyone to read a Star Trek thread or any of the others that don't interest them.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

Create a Fire & Brimstone board for the threads where the gloves come off.

This too. Again, if the content isn't to your liking, stick to the milder sections of the forum. For those worried about newbies being put off or similar concerns, maybe access can be on a subscription basis of some kind - if you want access, you agree not to be oversensitive about the content. If you want to stay away from dubious content, don't subscribe to that section.

Santa wrote:

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

If people don't fancy threads...can't they just stay the fuck out and stick to the ones they want to post in? Instead of bitching at those that don't interest them?

This. No-one is forcing anyone to read a Star Trek thread or any of the others that don't interest them.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

Create a Fire & Brimstone board for the threads where the gloves come off.

This too. Again, if the content isn't to your liking, stick to the milder sections of the forum. For those worried about newbies being put off or similar concerns, maybe access can be on a subscription basis of some kind - if you want access, you agree not to be oversensitive about the content. If you want to stay away from dubious content, don't subscribe to that section.

Not a bad idea.

Python wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

Interesting voting outcome so far, neck and neck. Clearly premature to discuss any name change.

I'd like to throw something else into the mix: a change of management. Seems to me that a more hands-on administrator would be useful in developing this place.

Erica Ambler wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

No need for a revolution.

I agree. Not talking about a change of ownership here just day to day management. If M can't be here more than once or twice a month then he needs to delegate and that responsibility needs to be based on ability not on friendship.

This I agree with, and it's actually something that's been on my mind for the last week or two. Not taking any appreciation away from M and his efforts as admin, but we do need someone who comes in a more frequent basis. I would like a second admin assigned, at least someone who visits more often than not. I personally feel that I am up for the challenge, but I firmly believe that if a new admin is assigned it should be someone that has earned the confidence of mods and prominent members. Suggestions should be brought up for who is eligible.

Of course, this will ultimately be M's call on whether a new is assigned or not.

I'd support you becoming a second admin, Python.

The sooner the changes happen including admin/mod issues the better. Action This Day (if not sooner).

No huge problems with the place as it is, to be perfectly honest ... although I freely admit I'm probably a fairly minor contributor in the grand scheme of things.

Blunt Instrument wrote:

No huge problems with the place as it is, to be perfectly honest ... although I freely admit I'm probably a fairly minor contributor in the grand scheme of things.

Quite the opposite.

Has someone banned j7wild again? :suspect:

Python wrote:

M wrote:

With immediate effect, j7 has been banned until the year 2017. He's been contacted, and had his ban explained to him, so hopefully this closes the book on the whole j7 debacle.

Again, all the anti-j7wild crew had to do was use ignore if he was that infuriating to them. He didn't break any rules as far as I see.

I'm outnumbered on this :roll:

Python wrote:

M wrote:

With immediate effect, j7 has been banned until the year 2017. He's been contacted, and had his ban explained to him, so hopefully this closes the book on the whole j7 debacle.

TOO BAD I always enjoy a mad man on a rampage especially if his weapons of choice are words. Crazy words I admit more often than not.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

Python wrote:

M wrote:

With immediate effect, j7 has been banned until the year 2017. He's been contacted, and had his ban explained to him, so hopefully this closes the book on the whole j7 debacle.

Again, all the anti-j7wild crew had to do was use ignore if he was that infuriating to them. He didn't break any rules as far as I see.

I'm outnumbered on this :roll:

Outsiders perusing the boards considering whether they should sign up or not don't have that option.

I always said a ban should ban, and returning only defeats the point. Either way, this was ultimately M's call.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Blunt Instrument wrote:

No huge problems with the place as it is, to be perfectly honest ... although I freely admit I'm probably a fairly minor contributor in the grand scheme of things.

Quite the opposite.

Thank you kindly, Khanners.

Python wrote:

M wrote:

With immediate effect, j7 has been banned until the year 2017. .

Just in time for Hilary's inauguration. I'm counting down the days.

FieldsMan wrote:

Python wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

Interesting voting outcome so far, neck and neck. Clearly premature to discuss any name change.

I'd like to throw something else into the mix: a change of management. Seems to me that a more hands-on administrator would be useful in developing this place.

Erica Ambler wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

No need for a revolution.

I agree. Not talking about a change of ownership here just day to day management. If M can't be here more than once or twice a month then he needs to delegate and that responsibility needs to be based on ability not on friendship.

This I agree with, and it's actually something that's been on my mind for the last week or two. Not taking any appreciation away from M and his efforts as admin, but we do need someone who comes in a more frequent basis. I would like a second admin assigned, at least someone who visits more often than not. I personally feel that I am up for the challenge, but I firmly believe that if a new admin is assigned it should be someone that has earned the confidence of mods and prominent members. Suggestions should be brought up for who is eligible.

Of course, this will ultimately be M's call on whether a new is assigned or not.

I'd support you becoming a second admin, Python.

Much appreciated, brother.



But again, other suggestions would help a lot.

It’s important to understand the roles of administrator and moderators in building a sustainable forum.

A lot of the day-to-day work is unrewarding. As a result, many jobs go undone here. For instance, threads hang around long past their sell by date simply because no one is prepared to do the most basic housekeeping.

The answer to that is simple. If you're not going to do what's required then hand back your sheriff's badge. Being a moderator should have nothing to do with whether you know the forum owner or how many posts you've made, it should be a matter of understanding what needs to be done then doing it.

Do what the job requires or just be an ordinary member. Nothing complicated about that.

For what it’s worth, I believe that Hilly, Shark, and Python, among others, have demonstrated their commitment to this place and are good candidates to build its future. Unfortunately, other moderators have shown themselves to be incompetent, inexperienced and/or immature. They should step aside.

I would add that this forum has tried anarchy and severely damaged itself in the process. It's time for a change. This is not about curtailing free speech; if members want to discuss politics or eugenics there are other more appropriate forums to do that. B&B should not be full of fear and anger. It should be enjoyable, a place for intelligent, humourous, flirtatious and successful people to escape to. It has to have a certain joie de vivre. For me, that’s what Bond is all about.

The most important thing is that no one individual should ever be allowed to become bigger than the group. This place has suffered for more than year from a deeply misguided attempt to protect the rights of an individual who massively destabilised the community. No doubt such tolerance was well intentioned, but it shouldn’t be allowed to happen again.