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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyFri Nov 30, 2012 7:49 pm

Week total: $43,388,040

Roughly on par with CR's second week and twice as much as QOS's third (both were after Thanksgiving)

Domestic Box Office:

1. THUNDERBALL: $467,189,850
2. GOLDFINGER: $381,306,950
3. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $298,506,630
4. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $250,374,070
6. SKYFALL: $229,029,189
5. MOONRAKER: $224,101,740
7. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $207,021,330
8. CASINO ROYALE '06: $192,203,210
9. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $185,101,450
10. LIVE AND LET DIE: $184,384,660
11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $180,961,870
12. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: 180,662,220
13. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $178,858,030
14. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $176,324,470
15. CASINO ROYALE '67: $173,208,830
16. GOLDENEYE: $161,605,210
17. OCTOPUSSY: $157,741,550
18. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $143,601,560
19. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $139,538,680
20. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN: $131,037,700
21. DR. NO: $121,504,060
22. A VIEW TO A KILL: $108,236,450
23. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS: $104,267,380
24. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $98,439,510
25. LICENCE TO KILL: $64,695,080



International Box Office:

1. LIVE AND LET DIE: $658,895,800
2. SKYFALL:$571,232,889
3. THUNDERBALL: $570,101,210
4. GOLDFINGER: $551,039,320
5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $536,365,260
6. CASINO ROYALE '06: $489,895,400
7. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $474,697,600
8. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $447,966,630
9. MOONRAKER: $446,213,580
10. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $412,421,290
11. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $407,487,590
12. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $403,866,690
13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $376,735,680
14. GOLDENEYE: $373,172,770
15. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $359,680,640
16. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $348,627,030
17. DR. NO: $329,210,230
18. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $326,259,860
19. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: $299,469,200
20. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS: $285,213,420
21. OCTOPUSSY: $277,889,100
22. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN: $240,700,450
23. A VIEW TO A KILL: $231,131,810
24. LICENCE TO KILL: $226,803,090
25. CASINO ROYALE '67: $134,410,060



Worldwide Box Office

1. THUNDERBALL: $1,037,291,060
2. GOLDFINGER: $932,246,270
3. LIVE AND LET DIE: $843,280,460
4. SKYFALL:$800,262,078
5. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $773,204,230
6. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $715,223,290
7. CASINO ROYALE '06: $682,098,610
8. MOONRAKER: $670,315,320
9. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $663,795,360
10. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $628,928,500
11. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $588,968,140
12. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $555,648,360
13. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $551,089,150
14. GOLDENEYE: $534,777,980
15. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $516,274,360
16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $502,584,330
17. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: $480,131,420
18. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $458,120,150
19. DR. NO: $450,714,290
20. OCTOPUSSY: $435,630,650
21. THE LIVING DAYLIGHT: $389,480,800
22. NEVER SAT NEVER AGAIN: $371,738,150
23. A VIEW TO A KILL: $339,368,260
24. CASINO ROYALE '67: $307,618,890
25. LICENCE TO KILL: $291,498,170

More importantly, SKYFALL is still ahead of all it's nearest comparisons, including CHAMBER OF SECRETS.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyFri Nov 30, 2012 10:49 pm

Never realised how well LALD did at the box office.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyFri Nov 30, 2012 11:40 pm

FieldsMan wrote:
Never realised how well LALD did at the box office.

Me either. Not doubting Tubes, but the accounting method seems....off.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 01, 2012 4:22 am

Not that it makes any sense to me either, but there has been lots of loud yelling from Bond fans that LALD made $126 million internationally and $35 million in the states, with a worldwide total of $161. The previous assumption was that the $126 million figure was the worldwide total, which would make more sense. Professional sources tend to quote both numbers at random.

Like I said 2 months ago, it's more of a guide than anything. What we can safely say is SKYFALL is making fuckloads of money, more than any Bond film in over 40 years. One thing I can't wait to see is how BOND 24 will perform. All bets are off now and the ceiling that previous decades had seems to have disappeared.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 01, 2012 1:45 pm

http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/brad-pitts-killing-them-softly-dies-as-twilight-saga-james-bond-and-steven-spielberg-dominate-again/

Nikki is saying $15 million this weekend, placing it No. 2 and only a half-mil behind Twilight.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 01, 2012 1:53 pm

Jack Wade wrote:
http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/brad-pitts-killing-them-softly-dies-as-twilight-saga-james-bond-and-steven-spielberg-dominate-again/

Nikki is saying $15 million this weekend, placing it No. 2 and only a half-mil behind Twilight.

Her early numbers have tended to be very conservative the past few weeks. Would not be surprised to see the film end up with 17 or 18 million, and end up beating Twilight. Strangely enough, it looks like SKYFALL could actually make more money than Twilight: Breaking Wind, even though SKYFALL has been out longer and should theoretically be winding down.

Also, RISE OF THE GUARDIANS just looked plain awful, with not one joke in the previews that made me laugh. Based on the previews, I wasn't even sure there were any jokes.

EDIT: Yep, Deadline has already revised the weekend numbers UPWARD for SKYFALL.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 01, 2012 4:31 pm

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Jack Wade wrote:
http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/brad-pitts-killing-them-softly-dies-as-twilight-saga-james-bond-and-steven-spielberg-dominate-again/

Nikki is saying $15 million this weekend, placing it No. 2 and only a half-mil behind Twilight.

Her early numbers have tended to be very conservative the past few weeks. Would not be surprised to see the film end up with 17 or 18 million, and end up beating Twilight. Strangely enough, it looks like SKYFALL could actually make more money than Twilight: Breaking Wind, even though SKYFALL has been out longer and should theoretically be winding down.

Also, RISE OF THE GUARDIANS just looked plain awful, with not one joke in the previews that made me laugh. Based on the previews, I wasn't even sure there were any jokes.

EDIT: Yep, Deadline has already revised the weekend numbers UPWARD for SKYFALL.

It has a shot of being #1 for this weekend, depending on whose % drops harder. I'm not in the 300m club just yet but am delighted to know it will cross $250m by a significant margin...

My conservative end of run estimate for Skyfall is 272m and it will be the #5 film of the year in the USA. A few months ago I would never have imagined it would outgross Amazing Spider-Man (which sort of underperformed)....
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 02, 2012 9:17 pm

Skyfall with an estimated $17.4 million this weekend, staying at No. 2 and only about $400,000 behind Twilight. Domestic total up to $246 million and worldwide total up to $869 million.

http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 02, 2012 9:39 pm

The guy over at BOM has now revised Skyfall's USA potential to $290m...feasible...but also well above his initial figure which was $185m a month ago...

Should be close to 260m in the USA by this time next weekend, and over 900m worldwide. If it inches up to 930-940m worldwide before its China release, it can make the billion.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 02, 2012 10:23 pm

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:
The guy over at BOM has now revised Skyfall's USA potential to $290m...feasible...but also well above his initial figure which was $185m a month ago...

Should be close to 260m in the USA by this time next weekend, and over 900m worldwide. If it inches up to 930-940m worldwide before its China release, it can make the billion.

Agreed. I think SONY needs to go in with a fresh, new marketing campaign...a one week ad blitz later in the month, with a "re-release" back into extra theaters, that makes it seem like the movie is debuting all over again, and telling viewers who may have missed it the first time to see the movie that has made nearly a billion dollars.

BOM is right. The movie is on track to cut very close to $300 million between now and January 6th without any additional help from SONY, but a new campaign aimed at Christmas and New Years viewers and a re-release could be the trick to put it over the $300 mark.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 12:49 am

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Mrs Aural Sects wrote:
The guy over at BOM has now revised Skyfall's USA potential to $290m...feasible...but also well above his initial figure which was $185m a month ago...

Should be close to 260m in the USA by this time next weekend, and over 900m worldwide. If it inches up to 930-940m worldwide before its China release, it can make the billion.

Agreed. I think SONY needs to go in with a fresh, new marketing campaign...a one week ad blitz later in the month, with a "re-release" back into extra theaters, that makes it seem like the movie is debuting all over again, and telling viewers who may have missed it the first time to see the movie that has made nearly a billion dollars.

BOM is right. The movie is on track to cut very close to $300 million between now and January 6th without any additional help from SONY, but a new campaign aimed at Christmas and New Years viewers and a re-release could be the trick to put it over the $300 mark.
I don't see a re-release happening. Skyfall has done exceptionally well, sure, but I don't think it's quite the cultural phenomenon like, let's say, The Dark Knight was, and even then, that one didn't do particularly earth-shattering business on its second go-around (though it did do just enough to cross the $1 billion barrier).

Maybe Sony will ramp up its ad campaign a little bit around Christmas but I wouldn't realistically expect much more than that.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 1:16 am

Weekend: $17,000,000

Domestic Box Office:

1. THUNDERBALL: $467,189,850
2. GOLDFINGER: $381,306,950
3. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $298,506,630
4. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $250,374,070
6. SKYFALL: $246,029,000
5. MOONRAKER: $224,101,740
7. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $207,021,330
8. CASINO ROYALE '06: $192,203,210
9. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $185,101,450
10. LIVE AND LET DIE: $184,384,660
11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $180,961,870
12. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: 180,662,220
13. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $178,858,030
14. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $176,324,470
15. CASINO ROYALE '67: $173,208,830
16. GOLDENEYE: $161,605,210
17. OCTOPUSSY: $157,741,550
18. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $143,601,560
19. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $139,538,680
20. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN: $131,037,700
21. DR. NO: $121,504,060
22. A VIEW TO A KILL: $108,236,450
23. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS: $104,267,380
24. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $98,439,510
25. LICENCE TO KILL: $64,695,080



International Box Office:

1. LIVE AND LET DIE: $658,895,800
2. SKYFALL:$623,000,000
3. THUNDERBALL: $570,101,210
4. GOLDFINGER: $551,039,320
5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $536,365,260
6. CASINO ROYALE '06: $489,895,400
7. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $474,697,600
8. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $447,966,630
9. MOONRAKER: $446,213,580
10. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $412,421,290
11. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $407,487,590
12. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $403,866,690
13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $376,735,680
14. GOLDENEYE: $373,172,770
15. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $359,680,640
16. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $348,627,030
17. DR. NO: $329,210,230
18. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $326,259,860
19. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: $299,469,200
20. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS: $285,213,420
21. OCTOPUSSY: $277,889,100
22. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN: $240,700,450
23. A VIEW TO A KILL: $231,131,810
24. LICENCE TO KILL: $226,803,090
25. CASINO ROYALE '67: $134,410,060



Worldwide Box Office

1. THUNDERBALL: $1,037,291,060
2. GOLDFINGER: $932,246,270
3. SKYFALL:$869,029,000
4. LIVE AND LET DIE: $843,280,460
5. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE: $773,204,230
6. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: $715,223,290
7. CASINO ROYALE '06: $682,098,610
8. MOONRAKER: $670,315,320
9. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER: $663,795,360
10. QUANTUM OF SOLACE: $628,928,500
11. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE: $588,968,140
12. DIE ANOTHER DAY: $555,648,360
13. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE: $551,089,150
14. GOLDENEYE: $534,777,980
15. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: $516,274,360
16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: $502,584,330
17. TOMORROW NEVER DIES: $480,131,420
18. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN: $458,120,150
19. DR. NO: $450,714,290
20. OCTOPUSSY: $435,630,650
21. THE LIVING DAYLIGHT: $389,480,800
22. NEVER SAT NEVER AGAIN: $371,738,150
23. A VIEW TO A KILL: $339,368,260
24. CASINO ROYALE '67: $307,618,890
25. LICENCE TO KILL: $291,498,170

SKYFALL will become the highest grossing 2D release this year in a matter of days.

SKYFALL is presently the 4th biggest movie worldwide this year (behind AVENGERS, RISES, and ICE AGE 4).

SKYFALL is still performing very close to CR's numbers during the same time period (weekend after Thanksgiving). If that holds up, SKYFALL will pass $300 million.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 6:12 am

That would be great if SF not only breaks $200 barrier but also $300. Seems like a long way to go at this point in its run, we'll see.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 6:43 am

Jack Wade wrote:

I don't see a re-release happening. Skyfall has done exceptionally well, sure, but I don't think it's quite the cultural phenomenon like, let's say, The Dark Knight was, and even then, that one didn't do particularly earth-shattering business on its second go-around (though it did do just enough to cross the $1 billion barrier).

When did The Dark Knight Rises have a "second go-around" and how is making $1 billion dollars not a phenomenon? TDKR made $76 million more than TDK, and yet that's not "earth-shattering business"? Not surprised you are clinging to your timid and outdated box office theories, since you low-balled SF's box office potential in this thread months ago, and then told the rest of us who were predicting a $90 million dollar opening and 200+ at the US box office we were wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 6:48 am

He was talking about the 2008 film, not TDKR.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 8:03 am

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Not surprised you are clinging to your timid and outdated box office theories, since you low-balled SF's box office potential in this thread months ago, and then told the rest of us who were predicting a $90 million dollar opening and 200+ at the US box office we were wrong.

Who? I've been through this thread and you where the only one who predicted anywhere near $90 million. Not to mention that as the good reviews piled up and the box office started booming overseas in October, everyone revised their estimates upwards to compensate. Despite that, every single person here got their initial predictions for total box office wrong. Nobody thought SKYFALL would even approach $250 million in the States or $600 million internationally. Even you, despite your dead on assessment of the opening weekend, were wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 12:05 pm

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Jack Wade wrote:

I don't see a re-release happening. Skyfall has done exceptionally well, sure, but I don't think it's quite the cultural phenomenon like, let's say, The Dark Knight was, and even then, that one didn't do particularly earth-shattering business on its second go-around (though it did do just enough to cross the $1 billion barrier).

When did The Dark Knight Rises have a "second go-around" and how is making $1 billion dollars not a phenomenon? TDKR made $76 million more than TDK, and yet that's not "earth-shattering business"?
Huh? I said The Dark Knight, not The Dark Knight Rises.

Regardless, $1 billion is quite phenomenal business, but I don't see Skyfall's influence reaching as deep as The Dark Knight's did -- at least to the point where it would make it enough money to warrant the time, effort and money to put into a re-release.

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What on earth are you talking about? I never told anybody their predictions would be wrong. I even went back and bumped up my domestic prediction to $210 million. I think you must have me confused with someone else as all I've done in this thread is offer my own predictions and post box office results.

I'm also not really sure how my theories were "timid and outdated" considering I'm far from the only one who didn't predict Skyfall would be the massive hit it is. But hey, if you think guessing box office returns slightly more accurately than others warrants being on this high horse of yours, more power to ya.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 4:26 pm

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He was talking about the 2008 film, not TDKR.

Okay, when did THE DARK KNIGHT have a "second go-round"? And how is $1 billion dollars in box office not an "earth shattering" amount?
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 4:37 pm

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What on earth are you talking about? I never told anybody their predictions would be wrong.

This was your response to me on August 28th, 2012: $800 million is pretty high. I don't know that Bond has that kind of appeal anymore, though

You disagreed with me. That's saying that I'm going to be wrong. I don't have a problem with that. But it is what it is.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 5:03 pm

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Python wrote:
He was talking about the 2008 film, not TDKR.

Okay, when did THE DARK KNIGHT have a "second go-round"? And how is $1 billion dollars in box office not an "earth shattering" amount?
THE DARK KNIGHT had a theatrical re-release in late 2008/early 2009, I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 5:15 pm

For what it's worth, TDK's re-release was more of an IMAX expansion than anything. It never really left theaters, but was playing in more in January to edge it over $1 billion and play to the awards crowd. It might have made even more if TDK was nominated for an Oscar like everyone wanted.
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Okay, well, unless I'm very much mistaken it seems to me on the other side of the pond that, Stateside, SKYFALL has made rather more of a splash than any Bond film in, well, decades (I suppose you'd have to go back to THUNDERBALL or something).

I mean, SKYFALL is clearly not a culture-changing phenomenon of a blockbuster in America. It's no TITANIC. Then again, it appears to have done what few recent Bond films have done with American audiences, i.e. it's broken out of the Bond fan bubble somewhat. I may be wrong on this, but it's the impression I'm getting. If I am wrong, please correct me on this point - for all I know, SKYFALL's box office numbers may simply be a result of higher ticket prices, inflation or whatever.

So here are a couple of questions for Americans here: have you noticed SKYFALL causing more excitement among your friends and acquaintances than was the case for DIE ANOTHER DAY, CASINO ROYALE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE? (I know that those films were hits in the States, but not to the same degree as SKYFALL.) In other words, is it now palpably the case to you that BOND IS (finally) BACK!!!!!!!! with U.S. cinemagoers?

The second question would be: what do you think accounts for SKYFALL's unusual level of success? I've read the theory that it's somehow caught a wave of affection for Englishness among American audiences, but even if such a wave of affection is currently making itself felt I rather doubt that SKYFALL's box office windfall can be in large part down to the DOWNTON ABBEY crowd.

Question number three is: is SKYFALL's success (while hardly a game-changer for the movie biz as a whole) a game-changer for the Bond series? Is BOND 24 likely to be an attempt to replicate it in some way (just as MOONRAKER was in many ways THE SPY WHO LOVED ME 2), perhaps by being set largely within the United Kingdom and/or featuring a flamboyant, bizarre villain of the sort more commonly found these days in a Batman outing?
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 11:26 pm

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I may be wrong on this, but it's the impression I'm getting. If I am wrong, please correct me on this point - for all I know, SKYFALL's box office numbers may simply be a result of higher ticket prices, inflation or whatever.

Terribly wrong... :face: In the USA, Skyfall has done almost 50% better than QoS to date...without a corresponding 50% increase in ticket prices since 2008.

In terms of admissions, it has outpaced everything since 1995.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 11:34 pm

Looking at the SKYFALL craze over at tumblr, it appears that one demographic - American teenage girls - have been driven stir crazy by thoughts of Bond/Q and Bond/Silva, and then have gone on to write Mills & Boon-style slash fiction about those characters. Lots of repeat viewings here.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when Bond stole audiences who'd usually obsess over the Beeb's SHERLOCK, One Direction, DR. WHO, HARRY POTTER, HUNGER GAMES and TWILIGHT, but there you go.
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PostSubject: Re: WINDFALL at the Box Office   WINDFALL at the Box Office - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 11:49 pm

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Jack Wade wrote:

What on earth are you talking about? I never told anybody their predictions would be wrong.

This was your response to me on August 28th, 2012: $800 million is pretty high. I don't know that Bond has that kind of appeal anymore, though

You disagreed with me. That's saying that I'm going to be wrong. I don't have a problem with that. But it is what it is.
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