Problem Members

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Largo's Shark wrote:

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

It took some balls for the Mod who edited his posts to fess up and also for Largo's Shark to apologise.

I have to say, I was surprised that Control did it. I was thinking: "Largo's Shark. Gotta be."

I did it once, as the j7 mod edit to end all j7 mod edits. IIRC, it was the first post he made since the return from his first suspension, in one of the "Last Move You Watched" threads. It was already overlong collection of 2 sentence reviews of all the films he watched in his downtime. I just threw in about a dozen 90s gifs (MC Hammer, dancing baby, wizard at computer) and trollface. I was trying to outdo Brown/Control.

A couple of days later after Khanster PMd me on the subject of j7 complaining to him about mods editing his posts, to cover my end, I restored the post I tampered with.

Don't take this the wrong way, and I don't know what M knows about who did what, but maybe with at least two moderators having edited J7's posts, M felt that the moral high ground against J7 had been lost. I think moving forward we should all agree that we're going to have to be better than J7 if a case is going to be made to remove him. In my opinion, the instances of editing his posts (however playful and innocent the intention may have been) could possibly have worked against the effort to keep him permanently banned, because it played into the argument that he was being unfairly targeted.

Sounds plausible.

Incidentally, I note that our newest member is j8wild. Presumably another Ambler incarnation.

Christ, how many more bloody dummy accounts before he shows up for real?

I'm starting to suspect Ambler is Baron Samedi.

Largo's Shark wrote:

Christ, how many more bloody dummy accounts before he shows up for real?

I'm starting to suspect Ambler is Baron Samedi.

Why has Ambler been gone so long? And is Ambler male or female?

Male, although j7wild always thinks he's a she, even when it's established to him seven times.

Erica Ambler is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

With an eccentric nature when it comes to multiple online personalities.

Hilly wrote:

With an eccentric nature when it comes to multiple online personalities.

And sexes.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Well, I was just joking, but am genuinely surprised at #1 the amount of intrigue going on around here and #2 that I have had nothing to do with it. I used to be at the center of most controversies; now I feel like I'm on the outside looking in.

MGW would cite you've lost the proverbial blush from your rose, that you've peaked...and will be replaced. Because the role of 'controversial' is the star, it's bigger than the poster that portrays him...or her....

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Don't take this the wrong way, and I don't know what M knows about who did what, but maybe with at least two moderators having edited J7's posts, M felt that the moral high ground against J7 had been lost. I think moving forward we should all agree that we're going to have to be better than J7 if a case is going to be made to remove him. In my opinion, the instances of editing his posts (however playful and innocent the intention may have been) could possibly have worked against the effort to keep him permanently banned, because it played into the argument that he was being unfairly targeted.

I think that is a major point in all of this. If no one edited his posts, he wouldn't be able to say anyone tampered with the evidence, and can claim he never said anything (even if he did, point is, he has created reasonable doubt). Tampering causes a case to be thrown out of court and the protective service to be sued, not to mention put a big blot on its integrity). In this respect, I consider the one chance given to j7wild by M to be a fair compromise...

With all that said, I apologise for using an elephant gun on Largo Shark's crotch when in reality, a pea-shooter would have sufficed.

Largo's Shark wrote:

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

Ambler called him out for spamming....but wasn't Ambler also accused of this on other boards?

I think it's important to note that MI6 had their own standards for what constitutes spam (Luds still calls him "Spambler"). In Erica's case it was just his off-topic ménage à trois comedy routines with MOO7RE and Oppers/Rave/Fae. I'd say that's worlds apart from what j7wild's known for.

As an aside, Benny told me he once had to cross-check my IP address with Ambler's to make sure we weren't the same person.

That's an honor.

It wasn't hard to get blacklisted at Mi6. I think all you needed to be was funny and intelligent. If Ambler had just posted a few CALL OF DUTY threads, then he probably could've stuck around a little longer.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Incidentally, I note that our newest member is j8wild. Presumably another Ambler incarnation.

I've banned him along with Cicciolina. Until he returns to his old account, this game of Whac-A-Mole will continue.

Jack Wade wrote:

He doesn't respond to anything critiquing him.

He does, if he thinks he can get you banned. I got stuck into him a while ago and he dragged up my head-butting with GS and Ambler, seeming to think that he could use it to get me kicked out.

For the record, here's my brief exchange with j7 via PM from May 12th and 13th.

j7wild wrote:

I read that thread about me that was started when I was banned.

The thread about how many days are left before I was coming back and in it, there was a mention of one of the reasons I was banned was because I posted a link to a Neo Nazi website.

I never posted a link to a Neo Nazi website.

I tried to look for it but because i was banned, I couldn't log in to use the search engine and look at my posts under my profile.

Now I can't find it.

I hate to accuse anyone but if someone can go into my posts and change my fonts and even change the girl photos I posted to stupid photos, someone can also post links to Neo Nazi websites in my threads and posts.

Largo's Shark wrote:

I'm onto it. I've only edited and added things (silly gifs) to one of your posts (the crazily long collection of reviews you posted the other day). I've since edited it and restored it to how it originally was. Apart from that, it's probably Brown doing it. I'll talk to him.

I wasn't aware of the neo-nazi thing being a plant, though. Although I didn't see the link, I've managed to find the post:

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t615p15-where-do-you-get-your-news

Do you remember this?

Either way, 13 complaints to forumotion in reaction to your posts is a hell of a lot. More of that kind of thing potentially puts the future of BAB in jeopardy. I hope you can understand why M and us mods might be concerned.

j7wild wrote:

I don't remember posting a link in there; especially one to a Neo Nazi website.

I always open the links myself before posting them at any forum to make sure they don't contain anything objectionable or viruses, etc etc

Just like I double checked that greatballs.com website and watched the videos in it, before I posted it.

Largo's Shark wrote:

You'll have to take this up with Brown, j7, since he was the one who supposedly removed your link to stormfront.org.

I'll PM M and ask him for the content of the other complaints to see what posts brought them on.

j7's theme song:

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

And is Ambler male or female?

I think everyone needs to chill. As far as j7 goes, he's staying. If he is to go, it will be because he fucked up again. M was very lenient by letting him back. No need for this discussion to keep going.

If you really don't want him here, ignore his posts.

I read the above fine print...and came across 13 complaints to forumotions about j7wild. I'm wondering if those were from 13 original posters? Cuz we seem to have an alter-ego infestation at times. :suspect: Many threads on this board don't even get 13 unique respondents...

I don't remember than incident with the alleged white supremacist links. I'm not denying it ever existed, but can't vouch seeing it for myself either.

FieldsMan wrote:

I think everyone needs to chill. As far as j7 goes, he's staying. If he is to go, it will be because he fucked up again. M was very lenient by letting him back. No need for this discussion to keep going.

If you really don't want him here, ignore his posts.

^ This.

Largo's Shark wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Incidentally, I note that our newest member is j8wild. Presumably another Ambler incarnation.

I've banned him along with Cicciolina. Until he returns to his old account, this game of Whac-A-Mole will continue.

I had suspected that one.

Wait, what happened to Ambler?

I though he (she? Nobody seems to know ...) was a moderator.

Never was. In Ambler's own words "I refuse to be a policeman".

I wish I could keep him on ignore but he posts so many pointless threads in the News section that I can't.

Python wrote:

Never was. In Ambler's own words "I refuse to be a policeman".

That doesn't explain where Ambler went, why Ambler went there or why Ambler is now re-registering accounts with names like "j8wild".

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Wait, what happened to Ambler?

I though he (she? Nobody seems to know ...) was a moderator.

He is a bloke, and was a mod here, but that was when BAB had a bizarre policy of every member being one, back in March 2011.

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That doesn't explain were Ambler went, why Ambler went there or why Ambler is now re-registering accounts with names like "j8wild".

This happened last summer when non-mods had the ability to delete their accounts. Harms (as Arkadin) self-destructed, followed by Ambler around May/June (which is why a lot of their posts from their first accounts appear as "guest"). Till about late August when they re-registered, BAB was at its most inactive, and I was thinking about giving up myself.

Before that, he created a number of other accounts to watch over us, mos notably - stupidwhiteman.

stupidwhiteman wrote:

Just spent an hour looking round during which no one made a single post. A shame as some of the early threads are damn funny. What the hell happened? Like the bomb dropped.

stupidwhiteman wrote:

Ravenstone wrote:

can anyone recommend a word processing programme for writers?

Try Hari 2.0. It automatically looks for quotes from gifted writers then seamlessly incorporates them into your own work.

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t28p525-are-you-a-new-member-introduce-yourself-here

Laz made an insightful post here:

Lazenby. wrote:

As far as I could gather from comments he made, Ambler left because people had already stopped posting or weren't posting enough for his liking. His departure was likely due to the lack of activity, not the cause of it. I completely understand his frustration at people not posting much, even if I don't agree that depriving us of a damn good member is the answer.

And, lest we forget, Harmsway left around the same time, so maybe the two departures are linked in some other way completely irrelevant to the post count here. And, on top of all that, there's a good four or five members here who nobody seems to know anything about, so there's every chance that Ambler and/or Harms could actually still be here. These "unknown" members registered pretty much as soon as the "view the site without having to register" feature was disabled, remember?

At the end of the day, I'm as guilty as anyone for going lax on posting from time to time, although, as Rave rightly said, we each have a life to live and other things we have to do with our time.

And Fieldster was also spot-on in noting that when big news about Bond 23 starts to come in, we'll see a huge upturn in posts as the forums will then again have the kind of big talking points which made this place flourish so superbly in March and April.

It's the same for most Bond/film forums right now, I'd assume. Unless you love watching robots transform into trucks in 3D, things are quiet. But the loyal following here will see us through times like these, I'm sure. Because people here know that when the time comes for them to post big-time again, they'll do so here in an environment and layout with which they're comfortable, without having to contend with biased, brown-nosing, bullsh*t condescending replies, warnings or having to wade through a slew of one-post puppet-member untranslatable/mis-spelt comments for their troubles. People here know their stuff, which is why discussions will really flourish here once hot topics begin to emerge and the member count rises upon the gradual increase of publicity.

The stats for this place were utterly phenomenal during March and April, during which time this place was going toe-to-toe and standing firm with big, globally-publicised forums elsewhere and even actually beating the sh*t out of a fair few of them. Pretty good going for a forum with practically zero visibility.

And Colly was spot-on as well in noting that one member doesn't make a forum. Ambler leaving sucked, yep, I loved the guy and most of his posts, but people would do well to remember that Harmsway and MOO7RE vanished/stopped posting at practically the exact same time, whilst the less-frequent posts of a few other initially-enthusiastic members (enthusiasm which was on the wane before Ambler's departure) also contributed to the slightly subdued period the forums are currently enduring.

So yeah, I miss Ambler a hell of a lot, but there's a lot of great posters here who will light this place on fire once the big topics start to turn up, I don't doubt that for a second. I still think that this place posesses roughly 70 of the best 80 posters from the old MI6 forums (or 75 if any of our "unknown" members are MI6 stalwarts-in-hiding), which is more than enough for the time being, and will be more than enough to get the best Bond discussions you'll find anywhere on the internet up and running as bigger news begins to arrive.

I can't speak for everyone of course, but I for one will be keeping the faith. This is a good place. It's well-run, welll-maintained, has Admin who actually listen and give a sh*t what the members want, an absolute sh*tload of A+ posters fully capable of posting any other forum under the table, and on top of all that we have a layout that's very user-friendly and easy on the eye. And anyone who'd rather complain could do a lot worse than try to help improve the very problems they're complaining about by knocking out a few decent posts to get some balls rolling around here. There's a debate thread which has been sat dormant since last Tuesday for a start, which just requires one person to chuck a sh*t-stirring question into. That's bloody easy for someone to do if they want to break the silence around here a bit.

All of a sudden, Ambler appears out of nowhere under a new persona as "Avarice."

Avarice wrote:

Hello all, I'm a big Bond fan, particularly of Daniel Craig. I don't like womanisers, charm, humour, Ian Fleming, decent music, or imaginative set design, so Nu Bond suits me right down to the ground.

In other news, I'm 66, believe manmade climate change is a fact, and represented Ambrosia in the long jump at the Tokyo Olympics. I also like benzodiazepine, spelling bees, toblerone, necrophilia, and shaven pudenda. I think I'll fit right in here so please make me welcome.

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t28p555-are-you-a-new-member-introduce-yourself-here

Last fall he changed his name back to what it was on Old MI6 - Erica Ambler, actually announced his hiatus earlier this summer, and the rest is history. He had to visit Beijing in May to do a lecture, and after that I guess he went on holiday.

Considering he's registered before as Hot Gay Sex, Major_Exposition, A Good Ass Blowing, I don't think j8wild and Cicciolina are out of the question.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Wait, what happened to Ambler?

I though he (she? Nobody seems to know ...) was a moderator.

Ambler's a man, for christsake. How many times do we need to go over this?

I'm sure Cicciolina was Ambler because he posted an image in the obituary thread regarding Angharad Rees' passing. He's an avid Hammer horror fan.

Largo's Shark wrote:

Last fall he changed his name back to what it was on Old MI6 - Erica Ambler, actually announced his hiatus earlier this summer, and the rest is history. He had to visit Beijing in May to do a lecture, and after that I guess he went on holiday.

Considering he's registered before as Hot Gay Sex, Major_Exposition, A Good Ass Blowing, I don't think j8wild and Cicciolina are out of the question.

I don't mean to go off topic here; I know this thread is dedicated to slagging off on J7Wild, but....the whole Erica Ambler thing raises a couple of probably meaningless questions.

Why doesn't he just come back as Erica Ambler? Why all the subterfuge? So we're saying that he has multiple accounts? If we know he's tried posting as Hot Gay Sex and A Good Ass Blowing, why are those accounts being deleted (beyond the obvious)? Are they being deleted because they're redundant, as he's already got a primary account as "Erica Ambler"? If he knows you know he's making these accounts up, why continue doing it? Is it just his sort of black humor?

And why don't people create gender neutral or gender-accurate personalities? I assumed when I read a name like Tiffany Wint, Salome, or Erica Ambler that the person is female, or if the person has a female avatar (like Ravenstone) that the person is female (except under a few different circumstances).

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

Is it just his sort of black humor?

Yes.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

And why don't people create gender neutral or gender-accurate personalities?

Because it's Ambler's sense of humour. It's started in 06 in MI6 (when you were there I believe) where he chose Erica Ambler as his screename. A play on the British spy novelist Eric Ambler. When he was permanently locked out of his account in 2009 and set up shop at Cb.n, he just went with Ambler, as he did on his first account on BAB.

He intended Avarice to be a new persona, but he gave himself away too quickly.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

I assumed when I read a name like Tiffany Wint, Salome, or Erica Ambler that the person is female, or if the person has a female avatar (like Ravenstone) that the person is female (except under a few different circumstances).

tiffanywint wrote:

Thought I'd wander over from the nuMi6 and see whats going on over here. Seems its now a split Mi6 community with a lot of double memberships like the old Studio 54 that Brown ran.

Anyway I've left the old hockey dressing room nick name "timmer" at the old place (which I only ever selected in the first place, because I was getting frustrated with all the names I really wanted being rejected because they were already in use) and have picked the really gay sounding tiffanywint for here, but hey I love both characters, so why not.
Almost changed my name to the "blue speedo", in honor of my 21st favourite Bond film, but there is no going back, so the avatar will do for now until it starts giving me nightmares. Sorry just trying out the new emoticons.

Cheers Everyone!

Wtih Brown Tux and Fields Man running things, this place looks to be in good shape! Will have to say nice things about Gemma

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t28p150-are-you-a-new-member-introduce-yourself-here

Salomé wrote:

Hello everyone. I'm Sabine, better known as the_operative (or Oppers) from MI6.

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t28p180-are-you-a-new-member-introduce-yourself-here

New Ambler account.

Where the F is M?

If you're sure all these dummy accounts belong to Ambler...was this thread of his really justified?

https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t1425-everyone-read-this-osama-j7-is-stealing-your-forum

I wouldn't be surprised if the complaints meted out against j7wild were multiple egos of one poster...

What does padding the forum with a wad of alter-egos do? And for what reason...?

j7wild might be a nuisance to some of you, but he doesn't play these type of games. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy Ambler's posts but I don't want to be talking to several people if they are really one person. To me, that stops being fun and starts being a bit worrisome.