No Time to Die: SPOILERS

I'm somewhere in between. I want it to work because it's been so long since we've had a good Bond film. I want it to fail as badly as QOS and SP so to really give the Craig era the reputation it has deserved since CR (SF excluded). But if it fails, it might mean Craig comes back so he can end on that high. Ugh. Gone are the days where when a Bond film is in production, you can't wait for it to come out as you have faith in the film makers.

GS wrote:

No, not a goodbye post. Just a vent.

Oh good. I'm glad to hear that.

A couple good pics of a vehicular stunt.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/bond-25-filming-new-photos-show-car-flipped-onto-its-roof-in-dramatic-chase-scene/ar-AAF1wfM

Great photos! Curious to see how all these car sequences tie into the final film.

Some interesting scheduling and theories bandied about here and on the included twitter link.

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2019/08/03/bond-25-questions-the-half-time-edition/?fbclid=IwAR2JnpWf4-GZpChmlV1ebqUlDeb7NtT1N3x8eoBIXl2pPFL3YyN3Gh7bBts

Interesting indeed. Not sure about that title (not after the uproar over using 'Quantum' in a title). The focus on children seems weird. Hope there aren't flashbacks to Craig-Bond and Brofeld as kids in addition to Madeleine. That Swann flashback is even too much.

A Bond-as-a-kid flashback would be the death knell of the series.

"Brofeld" lol


that was a brutal ..I could probably find enough parts in that movie to make it semi OK and enjoyable but that just killed it for me
who the hell made that decision? And if they were smart at all they would just drop it now and that character altogether. I know it might not be a popular opinion but when a series messes up that bad I say just make the next movie a stylish rip roaring action adventure and hopefully come up with a reasonable plot in the future.

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:

Not sure about that title (not after the uproar over using 'Quantum' in a title).

It would be hilarious to see how they attempt to put that into the song lyrics.

I seriously doubt that those are under consideration as titles.

There was a time when the idea of EON actually using the QOS title was unfathomable, especially after having avoided using the remaining Fleming short story titles. Yet they did it.

It may very well be that Spectre or whomever the villains are in this, are genetically engineering a "bunch of genetically superior children and have been attempting this for many years and the sequences filmed in Norway earlier is of one of those children getting loose and having to be hunted down...... in the pre-title sequence
Also, it could very well be that one of the earlier modified children is in fact, Madeline and for what ever convoluted reason she must be killed, hence her death in the pre-title sequence....I suspect both these scenes are a part of the pre-title.

Sarai wrote:

"Brofeld"  lol


that was a brutal ..I could probably find enough parts in that movie to make it semi OK and enjoyable but that just killed it for me
who the hell made that decision? And if they were smart at all they would just drop it now and that character altogether. I know it might not be a popular opinion but when a series messes up that bad I say just make the next movie a stylish rip roaring action adventure and hopefully come up with a reasonable plot in the future.

Bang on. The worst part is that studio execs pointed out many of the flaws in Spectre's script during development (including the Bond/Blofeld relationship), and yet Eon still went ahead with the dodgy screenplay. Luckily Daniel Craig is co-producing.

T.A. wrote:

It may very well be that Spectre or whomever the villains are in this, are genetically engineering a "bunch of genetically superior children and have been attempting this for many years and the sequences filmed in Norway earlier is of one of those children getting loose and having to be hunted down...... in the pre-title sequence
Also, it could very well be that one of the earlier modified children is in fact, Madeline and for what ever convoluted reason she must be killed, hence her death in the pre-title sequence....I suspect both these scenes are a part of the pre-title.

Yeah, I know.....I'm not sure if these both will be a part of the Pre, but one or the other is shaping up to be, with the other being in the early portion of the movie...Either way, it's a pretty sure bet that this kind of "Boys from Brazil" type thing is in there......

Hey, what do you expect after the convoluted horseshit:
"Silva is so fucking smart that he's months ahead of us in every way, yet he blunders in the front door clumsily blasting away, like a common street thug"
or the,
"Wah I'm mad because Daddy, likes the foster boy better than me" ridiculousness foisted upon us by the lazy bastards at EON.....Some real Mommie/Daddy issues going on there....I don't know why...

Maybe they'll top their Austin Power 3 inspired Blofeld twist with an Austin Powers 2 inspired one with Madeline turning out to be a fembot-esque clone or something and trying to kill Bond in the first ten minutes of the film.

The friggin Dutch.

Strangways&Quarrel wrote:

Maybe they'll top their Austin Power 3 inspired Blofeld twist with an Austin Powers 2 inspired one with Madeline turning out to be a fembot-esque clone or something and trying to kill Bond in the first ten minutes of the film.

I was going to reply with "Just imagine if they did that!" but after Spectre and these leaked spoilers, I'd be surprised if they didn't.

'Machine-gun jubblies, how did I miss those!'

More information pointing to my theory on the "Boys from Brazil type genetically modified children" plot...I'll go on to say I think the Gemona of a Woman is a mislead and that several things point to the use of "Property of a Lady" as the title...if the leaked info of the past week has any validity.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1162433/James-Bond-25-title-plot-Genoma-of-a-Woman-Daniel-Craig-Genome-Matera

"Genoma of a Woman"... I'd much rather watch "Women at the Janome" instead.

Property of a Lady wouldn't work- not with with plot details and characters. If it's chosen, it'll waste a perfectly valid title for mere fan service. Property of a Lady may have worked better for Skyfall instead, given the M dynamic with both Bond and Silva.

I think Property of a Lady might work, if the children are in fact being modified off Madeline's genes...Who's to say...

Dr. Vogel returns for Bond 25.

https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond-25-spectre-cast-member-returning?id=04541&fbclid=IwAR00PdFtJAc-PA1ZENF2dLb8wJjiBQYc3AlXT7ArCnIZE-gJXMDLUNAU35k

https://youtu.be/OZoHLYz3qw8

Isn't "Gemona" that thing Michael Jackson used to say while grabbing his balls?

T.A. Ferguson wrote:

Dr. Vogel returns for Bond 25.

https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond-25-spectre-cast-member-returning?id=04541&fbclid=IwAR00PdFtJAc-PA1ZENF2dLb8wJjiBQYc3AlXT7ArCnIZE-gJXMDLUNAU35k

Turning out to be quite the character list. How can they develop interesting characters, especially when the MI6 regulars join in on the action.

Bond
M
Q
Moneypenny
Tanner
Felix
Malek's character
Nomi (Lynch)
Paloma (de Armas)
Brofeld
Magussen's character
Bensallah's character
Dencik's character
Vogel
Madeleine Swann

CR06 had 17 prominent characters and who the fuck knows or cares about the myriad of villains in that: Valenka, Kratt, Carter, Mollaka, Dimitrios, etc. Even Le Chiffre feels watered down.

When you're in the middle of Gardner's tenure in your series reread and you find even his most off putting books are better entertainments.....